Tolerance in Armenia

[Armanen]

Re: Tolerance in Armenia

Wow Armsurvival, I'm suprised to see such comments to come from you. homosexuality inho is genetics and environment, but to say it is one or the other for sure like you did is absurd. There is still no conclusive scientific evidence to disprove either theory.

As for the orphan, there are plenty of people who can not have kids either and they should be the ones to adopt, not homos.

homosexuality is unnatural and unGodly. Humans like all creatures are meant to procreate and being gay obviously opposes that goal.

homosexuality may not be a national security threat but it certainly is a social threat, and I do not think any Armenian nationalist so be "ok" with it.

[Dice]

Re: Tolerance in Armenia

Genes + Brain Wiring + Prenatal Hormonal Environment = Temperament
Parents + Peers + Experiences = Environment
Temperament + Environment = Homosexual Orientation

just found that on http://www.narth.com/ more info there

[Dice]

Re: Tolerance in Armenia

a permenant roof over the kid's head is undoubtably the most important thing in this issue, what i said was secondary but still important.

that's a big topic and alot of people still don't believe it's genetic including many scientists, these studies were mainly issued by the lgbt community as propaganda to justify their behaviour.

this is a big argument and im not a scientist so not qualified to go into it

[yerazhishda]

Re: Tolerance in Armenia

ye if they are going to do what they do..since dont have kids and stuff might as well adopt

but then that raises the question what kind of kid will the kid turn out to be.
is a same-sex enviroment healthy for the kids psychology? will it make the kid want to/encourage the kid to be homosexual thus wasting more life?

Like ArmSurvival said sexuality is not environmentally influenced - it's genetic. In America, the states that allow homosexuals adopt have proven that there is no link between the sexuality of the parents and the sexuality of the adpotees.

Look at it this way: does being brought up in a heterosexual household determine whether one will be heterosexual or not? Of course not.

And even if it did mean that the kid would turn out gay, would this be worse than having the kid travel from orphanage to orphange, foster home to foster home, or at worse living on the streets? I would hope that you would opt for the kid to be in a homosexual household.

[Dice]

Re: Tolerance in Armenia

ye if they are going to do what they do..since dont have kids and stuff might as well adopt

but then that raises the question what kind of kid will the kid turn out to be.
is a same-sex enviroment healthy for the kids psychology? will it make the kid want to/encourage the kid to be homosexual thus wasting more life?

[yerazhishda]

Re: Tolerance in Armenia

Just a quick comment about the gay thing:

Even in societies where gays are free to be open, their population never exceeds a few percent. Being gay is not a choice -- its genetics. If you "chose" to be straight, then you're wierd and should probably get some psychological counseling. Only someone who is unsure of their sexual orientation would assume that having gays in society would turn other people into gays. Thats not how it works, and we know better, we're not 10 years old here.

Plus, gays are useful for adopting children and giving them a chance at an education and to get somewhere in life. Especially in Armenia where there are lots of orphans, a few gays wouldn't hurt.

I don't care about whether they can have parades and all that crap -- you can still keep those things illegal. But what you do in your own home, and the relationships you choose to have, is your business. You won't see me preaching that cigarettes should be illegal, even though they kill tons of people a year and make the country's medical spending a lot higher than it should be. And thats money we can use on building infrastructure, military, etc. Not to mention that if everyone saves their cigarette money, it will be easier to send their kids to school and build a better society in general.

But oh, these evil gays with their anal sex... now thats a national security threat.

I agree 100% with your post. I think it's especially cruel to let orphans stay orphans because the majority thinks homosexuality is "wrong". Tell that to the kid without any parents, support, food, etc.

[Dice]

Re: Tolerance in Armenia

weird that you're encouraging the human race to die out, especially the already small population of armenia

[ArmSurvival]

Re: Tolerance in Armenia

Just a quick comment about the gay thing:

Even in societies where gays are free to be open, their population never exceeds a few percent. Being gay is not a choice -- its genetics. If you "chose" to be straight, then you're wierd and should probably get some psychological counseling. Only someone who is unsure of their sexual orientation would assume that having gays in society would turn other people into gays. Thats not how it works, and we know better, we're not 10 years old here.

Plus, gays are useful for adopting children and giving them a chance at an education and to get somewhere in life. Especially in Armenia where there are lots of orphans, a few gays wouldn't hurt.

I don't care about whether they can have parades and all that crap -- you can still keep those things illegal. But what you do in your own home, and the relationships you choose to have, is your business. You won't see me preaching that cigarettes should be illegal, even though they kill tons of people a year and make the country's medical spending a lot higher than it should be. And thats money we can use on building infrastructure, military, etc. Not to mention that if everyone saves their cigarette money, it will be easier to send their kids to school and build a better society in general.

But oh, these evil gays with their anal sex... now thats a national security threat.

[jgk3]

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princess Di thing was a joke, though apparently not a very good one. Don't believe me if you don't want about my cousins but they actually are that intelligent. And although i said they do things for the armo community in Germany i never said i didn't here. I helped get all the Armenians and neighbors in my community to actually call their congressmen to vote for the genocide resolution when it was up last and actually got 2 in our area, i only brought up my cousins to say that the culture doesn't always get lost and that even if it doesn't their are still semi Armenians who do more the "full blooded armenians." Carla Garapedian who directed screamers doesn't even speak armenian, for example

Is pushing for the genocide resolution the only thing diasporans should concern themselves with, in your opinion?

[ara87]

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haha, are you serious? If we are going to count people with that little Armenian blood then half the population of europe can be claimed as being "part" Armenian.

As for you cousins, to tell you the truth I don't believe a word of what you said, but either way it doesn't matter, what does is for you to actually work to better Armenia in any way that you can, especially if you half Armenian cousins are doing more than you. That alone says more about you than your cousins.

princess Di thing was a joke, though apparently not a very good one. Don't believe me if you don't want about my cousins but they actually are that intelligent. And although i said they do things for the armo community in Germany i never said i didn't here. I helped get all the Armenians and neighbors in my community to actually call their congressmen to vote for the genocide resolution when it was up last and actually got 2 in our area, i only brought up my cousins to say that the culture doesn't always get lost and that even if it doesn't their are still semi Armenians who do more the "full blooded armenians." Carla Garapedian who directed screamers doesn't even speak armenian, for example