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What do you make of the Homshentsi/Համշենի?

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  • What do you make of the Homshentsi/Համշենի?

    I know wikipedia isn't the greatest source but the article appears to be accurate, these are some excerpts.
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    The Hopa Hemshinli or eastern Hemshinli, are Sunni Muslims and mostly live in the Hopa and Borçka counties of Turkey's Artvin Province. In addition to Turkish, they speak "Homshetsma" or "Hemşince" in Turkish, an archaic dialect of Armenian subject to influence from Turkish and Laz.

    The Kemalist "Turkey for the Turks" ideology, writes Neal Ascherson, "offered no security for minorities" with "the tiny Hemşinli group having especially compelling reasons to keep its head down" because "its members are the descendants of Armenians". [50] In order to avoid accusations of "separatism" the Hemshinli are discreet and unprovocative about their own identity, taking a full but unobtrusive part in Turkish society.

    Older generations of Turkish Hamshenis see the reference "Ermeni" (often used by their Laz neighbours) as an insult but some among younger generations, particularly those with strong leftist leanings tend to identify themselves as Armenians.

    During the Mikhail Gorbachev period of the Soviet Union in the late 1980s, the Hamshenis of Kazakhstan began petitioning for the government to move them to the Armenian SSR. However, this move was denied by Moscow because of fears that the Muslim Hamshenis might spark ethnic conflicts with their Christian Armenian brothers.

    Whether Christian or Muslim, most Armenians are willing to work with and try to understand their ethnic cousins. From October 13 to 15, 2005, a Hamsheni international scientific convention was held in Sochi. The conference was organized under the Institute of History of the Academy of Sciences of Armenia, Russian-Armenian Commonwealth Organization of Moscow (commissioned by the Armenian Revolutionary Federation) with help from the Armenian Scientific Informational and Cultural Center, "Hamshen" (Krasnodar, Russia) and Russian Armenian newspaper Yerkramas. It involved scholars from Armenia, Russia, the United States, Germany, and Iran to discuss the past of the Hamshenis. Among the reports presented at the event were "Hamshen: A Historical and Geographic Outline," "Hamshen Armenians," "Pont and Armenia in 1914-1921," "Genocide of Hamshen Armenians in 1915-1923," "Abkhazian Armenians on the Threshold of 21st century," and others. Following the conference, ethnic ensembles of Hamsheni Armenians of the Black Sea coast of Kuban gave a cultural performance.

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    Re: What do you make of the Homshentsi/Համշենի?

    If you want to know just how much of the native armenian they have retained please you'll want to watch this, its sung by a hemshini "turk" with subtitles comparing Hemshin with Armenian. Its actually a very catchy song. These are our brothers & Sisters!

    Music video clip of Kuzim. You are welcomed to download the full MP3 at: http://www.hemshin.org/songs.html

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      Re: What do you make of the Homshentsi/Համշենի?

      Originally posted by truAnatolian View Post
      These are our brothers & Sisters!
      Despite the fact they're Muslim, would you regular Armenians still accept them? Would you have reservations?

      The fact that they're Muslim alone makes me identify and pledge for them. I consider them my brothers and sisters.


      How do you guys feel?

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        Re: What do you make of the Homshentsi/Համշենի?

        Originally posted by SoyElTurco View Post
        Despite the fact they're Muslim, would you regular Armenians still accept them? Would you have reservations?

        The fact that they're Muslim alone makes me identify and pledge for them. I consider them my brothers and sisters.


        How do you guys feel?
        I have two Hamshen friends who are christians and were born in Abkhazia. All Hamshens outside turkey are christian. There are also Hamshens who were born in turkey but now live in Europe or Russia and have converted to christianity. From what I've learned from them is that Hamshens aren't really religious. Even though the Hamshens in turkey are "muslims" they happen to drink a lot both the men and women and they also do not approve of marriages outside their community for example with turks or kurds.
        I accept all Hamshens who know that they are Armenian as my brothers and sisters. I do not have any reservations against them.
        These last years there has been some work done in Armenia to raise awareness about the Hamshens. I am sure that we will grow closer to eachother in the future.

        For the Armenians here listen to this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaViw-axnRM

        If you listen closely you can understand every word.

        Here is also another site about the Hamshens:

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          Re: What do you make of the Homshentsi/Համշենի?

          Do your friends accept that they are Armenians?

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            Re: What do you make of the Homshentsi/Համշենի?

            Originally posted by truAnatolian View Post
            Do your friends accept that they are Armenians?
            Of course they consider themselves Armenian. They have actually fully integrated into Armenian society but both of them are from Abkhazia not turkey.

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