Persian language

[jgk3]

Re: Persian language

I'll get back at them once I'm the president of Western Armenia :P

[jgk3]

Re: Persian language

For the 10th time, there is absolutely no link between Western Armenian and Turkish. NOTHING! Please find me a single word that makes Western Armenian "similar" to Turkish. Eastern Armenian is similar to Russian... does that make sense? I doubt it.


The dialects in their pure form are mutually intelligible. It's when Eastern Armenians start using expressions like "ba, xi, maladec etc." or Western Armenians start using expressions like "yallah, ishteh, beh etc" that things get a little hard. All of the above expressions are totally unnecessary to use.

And it is this kind of sick mentality that drives away Diasporans from Armenia like it did after the 40s nerkaght. Akhpar, makhpar, shmakhpar blablabla. Mos, when you see stuff like that you should stand up for the Diasporan and say that he is Armenian and not an "akhpar". No one likes to talk about those shameful days and only now Hranush Hakobian the minister of Diaspora is acknowledging this long-ignored mistake and trying to correct it.
Know Russian but don't mix it with Armenian when you speak. You have no reason to especially if you are learning the language right now instead of at birth.

I agree.

[Anush]

Re: Persian language

I'll get back at them once I'm the president of Western Armenia :P

Hazaah!!

[Sip]

Re: Persian language

In practice, there's really not much similarity between Farsi and Armenian. In other words, if you know Farsi, you don't know any Armenian and vice versa

The alphabets are also completely different, the numbers are completely different, and the way things are written are very different (Armenian is left to right while Farsi is right to left with Arabic letters).

As far as dialects, there is "Armenian", and then there is "Western Armenian". This whole bullsh!t about "Eastern" is just very silly to me. I don't recal ever having learned about East Armenia and West Armenia ... As far as the barska-hye dialect, it is very similar to what is spoken in Armenia but of course bastardized in its own ways. But a typical barska-hye (who speaks Armenian) will have very little trouble communicating in Armenia.

Sad to hear your parents were speaking Farsi ... I know in the circles I grew up in Iran, that was a BIG no-no.

[yerazhishda]

Re: Persian language

As far as dialects, there is "Armenian", and then there is "Western Armenian".

No, there's Eastern Armenian and Western Armenian. Arevelahayeren aveli lave che yev Arevmdahayeren aveli lav che. Nuyn lezoonn e.

[Armenian]

Re: Persian language

People usually say "lav em" in colloquial.

Persian, Turkish are more similar to western Armenian than eastern. And in Iran Armenians speak with a certain dialect not like eastern Armenian in Armenia. However, if you want to learn Armenian learn eastern dialect because it is much more useful than knowing western. You're not always warmly received in Armenia if you go and start speaking western dialect with everybody. (դրանց ախպար են ասում) Also knowing a little Russian will help you have an authentic eastern dialect.

Good Luck.

Mos jan, you have posted some excellent comments in the past. What happened here?

[Lucin]

Re: Persian language

My parents are fluent in Armenian--and they talk to each other in Armenian occasionally--but they grew up in Iran, so they speak primarily Persian. As a result, I learned to speak Persian; I barely know a little bit of Armenian, but not really. I'd say that I know Persian just as well as they know Armenian.

Which city are your parents from??

I have not encountered an Armenian (in Iran) who does not speak Armenian at home primarily so the above cannot be true unless one of your parents (or grand-parents) is a Parsik or your parents are from Sistan and Baluchestan for instance...

[Mos]

Re: Persian language

Tell me one thing that I said that was wrong. Whenever I hear western Armenian, not often though and yes I understand it, but it sounds more Turkish or middle eastern to me than eastern Armenian. It's just has to do with the fact that some Armenians kept the Armenian spoke in Ottoman Empire and other Armenians which were under Soviet Union had their language evolve a little.