Re: Similarities between Armenian and Georgian alphabets
The invention of the Georgian and the Aghvan (Gargar) alphabets has been reported by our historians. Khorenatsi and Koryun, both students of Mashtots, have independently corroborated this. It is interesting that they have not made a big deal of it. They probably viewed those peoples as part of their nation and the borders (national and territorial) did not have the exact same meaning as they do now.
The dates of the oldest samples of these alphabets that go back to the times of Mashtots and the touch of the master, confirm that it's his work. The order of letters and their numerical values are yet other facts worth mentioning.
The Georgians deny this out of inferiority complex developed in the last couple of centuries or so, yet I believe their own historians must have recorded the fact as well which they most probably hide.
I read on one of their sites that said something in the line of “the Armenians claim it was invented by Mesrop Mashtots but their claim is not scientific”!
Their scientific facts tell us that Christian priests invented their alphabet in the third century BC, yet they won't name a source. The reason they date this in pre-Christian era is because they want to be the first Christian nation thus, they have to go back so far as to make it impossible for anyone else to claim that title.
Some others say their king Parnavaz invented the Georgian alphabet, but as far as I know kings in those days did not engage in similar activities. What they did as far as we have heard was to go to war, hunt and fuck.
Translation of Koryun on ArmenianHouse.org
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
Originally posted by defy View PostDon't base your knowledge on wikipedia. Anyone can edit.
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
Originally posted by bell-the-cat View PostLike most data from the Soviet Union, those are meaningless figures unless we know a lot more about them.
In the 1930s, all Turks and other Turkic peoples were reclassified as "Azeris", so that is probably why it is high back then. In the 1940s that reclassification was relaxed somewhat, which is probably why it gets lower. Then it gets higher again because of the (anti-NATO) Azerification policies of the Soviet Union.
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
Don't base your knowledge on wikipedia. Anyone can edit.
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
Originally posted by merhayrenik View PostGeorgians are backstabbing ungrateful Stalinist thieves. They want to import more meshketian seljuks to Georgia and settle them in Javakhk. They are not only evil but also stupid.
CHECK THIS OUT:
Seljuk population is growing faster than any other ethnic group and they will soon want independence. And when that happens nobody will help Georgia, neither Russia nor the US. The United States is in bed with seljuks because of their oil and they will not assist Georgia against the az.
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
Originally posted by merhayrenik View PostYear Georgia's Azeri Population % of Georgia's Entire Population
1939 188,058 5.3
1959 153,600 3.8
1970 217,758 4.6
1979 255,678 5.1
1989 307,556 5.7
2002 284,761 6.5
The number of Azeris rose faster than that of most other ethnicities in Georgia during 20th century.
In the 1930s, all Turks and other Turkic peoples were reclassified as "Azeris", so that is probably why it is high back then. In the 1940s that reclassification was relaxed somewhat, which is probably why it gets lower. Then it gets higher again because of the (anti-NATO) Azerification policies of the Soviet Union. Then in the 90s it goes up even more because, most likely, once all the non-Georgians who lived in breakaway Abkhazia are not counted, the percentage of "Azeris" against the rest of the population of Georgia must go up.Last edited by bell-the-cat; 02-25-2009, 12:29 PM.
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
Year Georgia's Azeri Population % of Georgia's Entire Population
1939 188,058 5.3
1959 153,600 3.8
1970 217,758 4.6
1979 255,678 5.1
1989 307,556 5.7
2002 284,761 6.5
The number of Azeris rose faster than that of most other ethnicities in Georgia during 20th century.
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
Georgians are backstabbing ungrateful Stalinist thieves. They want to import more meshketian seljuks to Georgia and settle them in Javakhk. They are not only evil but also stupid.
CHECK THIS OUT:
Seljuk population is growing faster than any other ethnic group and they will soon want independence. And when that happens nobody will help Georgia, neither Russia nor the US. The United States is in bed with seljuks because of their oil and they will not assist Georgia against the az.Last edited by merhayrenik; 02-25-2009, 12:39 AM.
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
Excellent work by an Armenian blogger on the similarities between the Armenian and Georgian alphabet. This is a really telling picture and to me is irrefutable evidence to the Armenian connection behind the Georgian alphabet.
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Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets
moderator note: finally tried moving related posts to this thread, wasn't able to make it go in the order I intended, with yeraz as the thread initiator (the posts I moved into here are older, thus Federate is the usurper of this thread :P )
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