Similarities between Armenian and Georgian alphabets

[Federate]

I was reading on the Georgian alphabet when I noticed something interesting. The following is the earliest form of the Georgian alphabet founded in the year 430 called the Asomtavruli letters. Do some of the letters, if not a big part, look familiar?

Ⴀ Ⴁ Ⴂ Ⴃ Ⴄ Ⴅ Ⴆ Ⴡ Ⴇ Ⴈ Ⴉ Ⴊ Ⴋ Ⴌ
Ⴢ Ⴍ Ⴎ Ⴏ Ⴐ Ⴑ Ⴒ Ⴣ Ⴓ Ⴔ Ⴕ Ⴖ Ⴗ Ⴘ
Ⴙ Ⴚ Ⴛ Ⴜ Ⴝ Ⴞ Ⴤ Ⴟ Ⴠ Ⴥ

[jgk3]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

I was reading on the Georgian alphabet when I noticed something interesting. The following is the earliest form of the Georgian alphabet founded in the year 430 called the Asomtavruli letters. Do some of the letters, if not a big part, look familiar?

Ⴀ Ⴁ Ⴂ Ⴃ Ⴄ Ⴅ Ⴆ Ⴡ Ⴇ Ⴈ Ⴉ Ⴊ Ⴋ Ⴌ
Ⴢ Ⴍ Ⴎ Ⴏ Ⴐ Ⴑ Ⴒ Ⴣ Ⴓ Ⴔ Ⴕ Ⴖ Ⴗ Ⴘ
Ⴙ Ⴚ Ⴛ Ⴜ Ⴝ Ⴞ Ⴤ Ⴟ Ⴠ Ⴥ

Yes they do, and do they denote the same sounds as the Armenian versions?

[Federate]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Yes they do, and do they denote the same sounds as the Armenian versions?

Not all of them match ours but i've realized some interesting points to take into consideration:

-The Armenian alphabet was founded in 405 by Mesrob Mashdots.

-The earliest form of the Georgian alphabet was founded in either 412 (no evidence) or 430 (evidence found). Its origin is a mystery and various legendary Georgian figures have been attributed with its creation.

-There has always been a widespread rumour that Mesrob Mashdots had also invented the Georgian alphabet, something Georgians vehemently deny.

-Mashdots lived until the year 440.

-This earliest form of the Georgian script was mainly used in churches. The Armenian alphabet was allegedly an inspiration from God and one of the primary reasons why we even invented an alphabet was to translate the Bible into Armenian letters instead of using Greek all the time.

-The Georgian alphabet has two of the following letters: t, e, p, k, g, h, ts and possibly others I missed. Very similar to Armenian.

-The Georgian alphabet when transliterated to Latin goes by this "A, B, G, D, E, V, Z, T'..." This is almost in line with Eastern Armenian.

etc?

[Federate]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

This is not all it seems. Mashdots also created the Caucasian Albanian alphabet! And there's sources for this:

According to Moses Kalankaytuk, the Caucasian Albanian alphabet was created by Mesrob Mashdots, the Armenian monk, theologian and translator who is also credited with creating the Armenian alphabet.

Armenian historian, Koriun, in his book The Life of Mashtots, wrote:

Then there came and visited them an elderly man, an Albanian named Benjamin. And he Mesrob Mashdots inquired and examined the barbaric diction of the Albanian language, and then through his usual God-given keenness of mind invented an alphabet, which he, through the grace of Christ, successfully organized and put in order.


Their alphabet is similar to ours as well.

[yerazhishda]

Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets

Here is an interesting chart I found on a Georgian grammar website, www.armazi.com/georgian. If you look at Columns B and C (Asomtavruli and Nuskhuri versions of the alphabet), you will see that a lot of the letters, while not matching Armenian sounds, are either identical or nearly identical to the Armenian alphabet.

Especially of note are #5 (ղ), 13 (ծ,ժ), 14 (հ), 16 (ա), 18 (վ), 20 (ն), 22 (վ), 25 (փ), 28 (ց), 29 (ի), 30 (ը), 32 (պ), 37 (տ) and 38 (ծ,ժ). There are just too many "coincidences" for there not to be any link between the Georgian and Armenian alphabets.

[Federate]

Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets

Good eye Yerazhishda. I also noticed this in the Armenian-Georgian relations thread. Could a mod be kind enough to move those posts into this thread? Thanks.

[jgk3]

Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets

However they got that script during their early Christian era, it is certainly related to how we got it.

If you take a look at the letters themselves in Asomtavruli and Nuskkuri (especially), you'll see how much it energizes an Armenian's bias towards the idea that we gave it to them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ge..._alphabets.PNG

[jgk3]

Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets

moderator note: finally tried moving related posts to this thread, wasn't able to make it go in the order I intended, with yeraz as the thread initiator (the posts I moved into here are older, thus Federate is the usurper of this thread :P )

[Federate]

Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets

Excellent work by an Armenian blogger on the similarities between the Armenian and Georgian alphabet. This is a really telling picture and to me is irrefutable evidence to the Armenian connection behind the Georgian alphabet.

http://517design.livejournal.com/113156.html

[merhayrenik]

Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets

Georgians are backstabbing ungrateful Stalinist thieves. They want to import more meshketian seljuks to Georgia and settle them in Javakhk. They are not only evil but also stupid.

CHECK THIS OUT:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeris_in_Georgia_(country)

Seljuk population is growing faster than any other ethnic group and they will soon want independence. And when that happens nobody will help Georgia, neither Russia nor the US. The United States is in bed with seljuks because of their oil and they will not assist Georgia against the az.