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    Armenian dialectology

    I would like to start a thread that explores the regional dialects of historic Armenia (pre-genocide).

    To start, I'll post what I found yesterday. Basically it's a collection of texts put together by American Linguist Bert Vaux. Unfortunately, his translations (where he makes them) sometimes fail to catch Turkish loan words, or totally gets an Armenian word wrong. Also, his translation does not capture the feel/meaning of Armenian phrases and probably causes a lot of bewilderment to the English reader.

    So, here are the images of the text I saved. Enjoy, there are some good laughs to be had, we Armenians can be very, very crude to eachother, which is fun to read if it's in a 100 year old text from a lost or almost dead dialect.

    So get your grandma, print these pages, make Armenian coffee and read them together, I guarantee you'll make her day.





    The rest of the document can be accessed on pdf here: http://www.uwm.edu/~vaux/dialects.pdf
    Last edited by jgk3; 09-20-2009, 01:15 PM.
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    Re: Armenian dialectology

    The Armenian Dialects of Jerusalem
    Bert Vaux, Harvard University

    http://www.uwm.edu/~vaux/jerusalem.pdf

















    Last edited by KanadaHye; 09-19-2009, 11:32 AM.
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      Last edited by KanadaHye; 09-16-2009, 02:10 PM.
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        Re: Armenian dialectology

        The Armenian Dialect of Ankara

        http://cambridge.academia.edu/docume..._of_Ankara.ppt



















        Last edited by KanadaHye; 09-19-2009, 05:43 PM.
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                Re: Armenian dialectology

                Reading some of these dialects, it is clear to me that they are heavily influenced by some regional languages, especially the distorted phonetics. So what's the point of considering them as part of the 'Armenian' dialects? Given that they've been under foreign influence...
                Last edited by Lucin; 09-20-2009, 07:12 AM.

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                  Re: Armenian dialectology

                  Originally posted by Lucin View Post
                  Reading some of these dialects, it is clear to me that they are heavily influenced by some regional languages, especially the distorted phonetics. So what's the point of considering them as part of the 'Armenian' dialects? Given that they've been under foreign influence...
                  1) It helps identify where Armenians have been, backing up historical claims.

                  2) It helps any Armenians that are still using loan words realize that those words aren't Armenian.

                  3) It might help the reader connect to their roots.

                  4) Somebody spent a lot of time analyzing this so he might feel good about people actually reading his life's work to justify his existence
                  Last edited by KanadaHye; 09-20-2009, 10:38 AM.
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                    Re: Armenian dialectology

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    1) It helps identify where Armenians have been, backing up historical claims.

                    2) It helps any Armenians that are still using load words realize that those words aren't Armenian.

                    3) It might help the reader connect to their roots.

                    4) Somebody spent a lot of time analyzing this so he might feel good about people actually reading his life's work to justify his existence
                    Yes, but my point was it should not be done under the name of Armenian dialects for the language in some of the regions has not gone through a natural evolution but influenced by foreign elements and thus distorted in my opinion.

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