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    America and being White and Armenian

    Is it just me or do my fellow Armenians feel that America is almost discouraging white, christian and/or european people from not only being proud of themselves but furthermore encouraging them to go out and mix with other races and/or cultures. By saying what I just said so many people would brand me a racist, but that is NOT the case. I simply see all the minorities being so proud of what they are, getting special treatment like affirmative action, while all the mean while if you are white and christian its almost like in america you can't be publicly proud of it. I don't know who else feels that way? I feel like the trend America has set is a BAD one. I through out my whole life feel (personally) that whites in general are significantly more intelligent both in capability and potential than all other races with the exception of the east asians (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese). I don't understand it, in the Animal Kingdom many animals are smarter than other animals, some are stronger than others, each has certain capabilities that the other doesn't. Despite the fact we are animals as well, why is it so hard to believe that America with its melting pot theorem is falsifying the truth? Is it coincidence that in this geopolitical modern world where you can easily access the world via the internet, Africa is the poorest and most disease ridden continent while Europe is the richest? Some say that, this is because no one helps them but we know this is not true. Look at Japan in 1945 they had 2 nuclear bombs dropped on them and their country ruined during the war not to mention an entire generation of their people lost. They managed to not only rebuild their economy but within 60 years become the 2nd richest country in the world (GDP). This similar feat has been reproduced by the Italians, Germans, French and even the Russians bouncing back from communism very well.

    Do you all believe that we truly are all equal? That the feats of our great culture, so old and unique and persistently dedicated to self preservation is equal to the culture of Austra-Aborigines or nomads living in Sudan? Do you guys think this mentality I have qualifies me as being a bad person despite the fact I have never harmed someone because they are different than me, nor do I have the intention of doing so. My wife is Japanese. I always saw Asians as a race equal to our own. Do you think my mentality is flawed, and a reflection of bigotry? And do you agree with the Melting pot theorem that America promotes. That everyone should mix and that sticking to your own kind and/or people you consider equivocal to your own kind is racist?

    Sorry for the long post. Pari Geesher!
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    Re: America and being White and Armenian

    Well you didn't stick to your own ethncity let alone race so I think you answered the last few questions for yourself. Your observation as a whole I do agree with, except that I think with Africa it also has to do with it's colonial past not just race.
    For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
    to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



    http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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    • #3
      Re: America and being White and Armenian

      Thank you for your support. It is greatly appreciated as most people that do agree just simply don't have the courage to say so, even online. You'd be surprised (or perhaps not :0) about how many people are scared of speaking out against minorities/xxxs for the fear of being persecuted or prosecuted in one way or another.

      And as for your observation of You are absolutely right I didn't marry an Armenian. I married a japanese and I regret it. That is why I said I considered them equal to us but I should have specified. I am currently in the process of getting the marriage annulled and she has no problem with that. It wasn't love and besides these feelings that I just wrote about only really became apparent AFTER I married her. It was only then I truly realized what I felt deep down. In many ways I feel like european christian whites are going extinct and I feel its my duty not only as one but as an Armenian it is a special case where I feel (again my personal opinion that I don't expect of anyone) is that I MUST marry an Armenian and father Armenian children who read, write and speak the language and would marry an Armenian and raise their children Armenian and so on and so forth. I AM proud of what I am, that is why I want to see us survive with all of my heart because I think we are a beautiful people and we are all beautiful all 10 million of us, we have our differences but in the end we are one beautiful unique culture. I honestly think if we die out it would be a huge cultural loss because of our long and untampered history.

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        Re: America and being White and Armenian

        Originally posted by o0tinerz0o View Post
        Thank you for your support. It is greatly appreciated as most people that do agree just simply don't have the courage to say so, even online. You'd be surprised (or perhaps not :0) about how many people are scared of speaking out against minorities/xxxs for the fear of being persecuted or prosecuted in one way or another.

        And as for your observation of You are absolutely right I didn't marry an Armenian. I married a japanese and I regret it. That is why I said I considered them equal to us but I should have specified. I am currently in the process of getting the marriage annulled and she has no problem with that. It wasn't love and besides these feelings that I just wrote about only really became apparent AFTER I married her. It was only then I truly realized what I felt deep down. In many ways I feel like european christian whites are going extinct and I feel its my duty not only as one but as an Armenian it is a special case where I feel (again my personal opinion that I don't expect of anyone) is that I MUST marry an Armenian and father Armenian children who read, write and speak the language and would marry an Armenian and raise their children Armenian and so on and so forth. I AM proud of what I am, that is why I want to see us survive with all of my heart because I think we are a beautiful people and we are all beautiful all 10 million of us, we have our differences but in the end we are one beautiful unique culture. I honestly think if we die out it would be a huge cultural loss because of our long and untampered history.

        There are so many interesting and unique cultures and peoples in the world which should be perserved. Yet if we follow the racial policies of the globalists there will soon emerge one giant corporate and artificial culture that is anything but unique.

        I'm glad to hear that you are interested in marrying an Armenian and raising patriotic children with your future wife.

        Have you ever been to Armenia?
        Last edited by Armanen; 11-21-2009, 03:00 AM.
        For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
        to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



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        • #5
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          Yes I have, twice, and each time I loved it more. I am so proud of how far we have come, to stay so pure to our culture despite being surrounded by turkic muslims. I mean after being under ottoman rule for 600 years I am sure our ancestors never thought (im sure never stopped hoping however) that we would have a free and independent Christian Armenia. Again I couldn't agree with you more. A lot of cultures should be preserved, and we shouldn't give in to the globalists. I don't want my children to be a half this half that part this part that. I like being all Armenian, it makes me feel like I belong to something greater than just me.

          I really want to buy a home or condo in Yerevan. What are your thoughts on that? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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            Re: America and being White and Armenian

            You can buy very nice apartments for reasonable prices. There was much construction last few years and many new apartments are available in different price ranges. Many of the newer ones are very nice with modern everything. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage but saying that your better because your Armenian then lets say a guy from Kenya is simply bs. Sure our culture is richer and our history longer but that doesnt make you better then him. In the end we are all the same people with very few things separating us and a great many more things making us the same. There are some small differences between the races but these differences are not significant. Its easy to say i am better because i have achieved more in life then you but the fact is everyone does not have the same opportunities in life, we dont all start at the same starting line so you may have gotton further in your carreer then the guy in Kenya but you could say the guy in kenya achieved more due to where he started yet never got close to the height that your at. Being proud of your people and culture is fine and well but saying i am a greater human being then another based on race/religion/ethnicity is bs.
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • #7
              Re: America and being White and Armenian

              Hmmmm. I never quite thought of it that way. Honestly you make a great point. Thank you!

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              • #8
                Re: America and being White and Armenian

                Another consideration, when comparing ourselves to nomads... is economics.

                Nomads don't have mortgage, electricity bills, bank loans, etc... Most of their lifestyle is self-sufficient, but likewise, they do not carry around with them an abundance of material assets the way we do, and so when we compare them, we think they are much poorer, or backward. But economically, we have a great burden to support for our so called "advanced and civilized" lifestyle.

                The life that we have here is not the only good kind in my opinion. Yes, it is good to have safer food standards, hospitals, schools, police, etc... But if we were missing one of these, we would remodel our society to find an equilibrium of some sort, even if it is not as outwardly EZ as our life here.

                And as Armanen said, a lot of the reason why Africa is the way it is has to do with its colonial history. It was not able to ward off enemies for so many centuries the way Japan did, because Japan was a unified civilization, a single nation with a long and rich warrior tradition that kept enemies out, and a rigid hierarchical system of lordship. In fact, because of all I've described above, Japan was able to hold its daring empire in the Pacific before it was finally crushed by the Americans.

                Thus, it is rather stupid in my opinion to compare Japan to Africa, which has known slavery, extortion and plundering of resources for several centuries because its tribes were not united or organized enough to keep the Europeans out, not even to understand their longterm motives clearly the way the Japanese had. And so, Africa's fate was sealed and she continues to suffer for it today. She simply lacks the warrior tradition necessary to take the reigns of power back into her own hands, and disoriented by perpetual famines and diseases, I wonder if she'll ever realize what she must do to improve in the 21st century.

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                • #9
                  Re: America and being White and Armenian

                  That is not true, because long before colonization was around some of us (human) came together and started building and inventing things, they started looking to the sky and wondering what’s there, they started counting the stars and naming them, then they studied their cycles, they’ve made schools and thought their children what they learned. And some of us stayed in caves and just have sex, kill rape and rob whoever they’ve met. Till this day you still have people that don’t want to put one rock on to the other to build a safer shelter to their children.

                  In America (north America and the west) the media will put you down if you’re; white, Christian and male, there’s a constant brain washing propaganda against these three.
                  Last edited by Yedtarts; 11-21-2009, 07:31 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: America and being White and Armenian

                    Originally posted by Yedtarts View Post
                    That is not true, because long before colonization was around some of us (human) came together and started building and inventing things, they started looking to the sky and wondering what’s there, they started counting the stars and naming them, then they studied their cycles, they’ve made schools and thought their children what they learned. And some of us stayed in caves and just have sex, kill rape and rob whoever they’ve met. Till this day you still have people that don’t want to put one rock on to the other to build a safer shelter to their children.

                    In America (north America and the west) the media will put you down if you’re; white, Christian and male, there’s a constant brain washing propaganda against these three.
                    So i guess we can ignore 100s of years of slavery, lynchings, segregation, discrimination....because they are animals and cant build anything. This mentality of yours is, to put it politely BS! My neighbor is black, he got himself a education, then became a financial analist for GM, he has the most upkept-updated house on our block and his yard is always clean, as a matter of fact he enjoys his riding mower so much he cuts part of his neighbors grass for free just to be neighborly. Blacks are just as capable of building homes, businesses, families as anyone else is. Because of slavery the black race in the USA lost its family unit since slaves were sold on a individual bases regardless of families. So imagine being kidnaped from your homeland, being separated from your family and everything you know, being thrown onto a slave ship where a large number of fellow slaves died, then if you survived the journey they sold you to someone who made you work like dog, beat you up, kept you half starved and this went on for generations. Even in modern times blacks were subjected to segregation, discrimination, the government has many times conspired against them by introducing highly addictive drugs into their neighborhoods among other things. It really is a shame seeing racism in a Armenian forum because we have been the victims of it ourselves. This is like what the isrealis are doing today to the palastinians and what they have been doing to us in politics. You shouldnt run around screaming injustice and racism if your going to do the same thing yourself.
                    Hayastan or Bust.

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