Kim Kardashian

[Mos]

Re: Kim Kardashian

Neither Cher or Kim are Armenian. Being Armenian is not something you get from just having Armenian blood. A person with full Armenian blood can very well not be Armenian. Being Armenian is about growing up as an Armenian, with Armenian culture values, language, with Armenian family, Armenian church, etc. It's about having a Armenian mindset and having the Armenian culture be native to you. That is why Cher or Kim, or any other person like them are not Armenian, but American or whatever country they grew up in. I don't care how much Armenian blood they have.

[NightOwl]

Re: Kim Kardashian

Neither Cher or Kim are Armenian. Being Armenian is not something you get from just having Armenian blood. A person with full Armenian blood can very well not be Armenian. Being Armenian is about growing up as an Armenian, with Armenian culture values, language, with Armenian family, Armenian church, etc. It's about having a Armenian mindset and having the Armenian culture be native to you. That is why Cher or Kim, or any other person like them are not Armenian, but American or whatever country they grew up in. I don't care how much Armenian blood they have.

I agree with you 100% but all these Armenian publications keep putting Kim on a pedastel as the most famous Armenian..... People who are not Armenian associate Kardashian with Armenians, shes created alot of stereotypes, so I like to pay attention to what is being said

[MrHyeSev]

Re: Kim Kardashian

Mos are you serious?
So if you have Armenian blood your not Armenian? How much sense does that make.

Not alot of people would agree with you. If you have Armenian blood in you, then you Are Armenian.
Just bc you don't like Kim you don't say she's not Armenian.

Would you like it if someone said you're not Armenian?

[Mos]

Re: Kim Kardashian

No I'm dead serious. Being Armenian is more than just a biological accident. It's about acquiring an Armenian mindset, knowing the language, Armenian church, etc. If you have Armenian blood and grow up not Armenian, and try to interact with actual Armenians they will be foreigners to you, nothing more. It just so happens people with Armenian blood tend to grow up Armenian because they are obviously born to Armenian families. However there are exceptions.

People such as Kim are not Armenian, I don't care if she has 110% Armenian blood, she's grown up an American, with American values, with American mindset, there's nothing Armenian about her...

I would count a 1/4 Armenian whose grown up Armenian, knows language, culture, etc. more Armenian than a 100% Armenian whose grown up as just an American with no exposure to Armenian culture. I could actually interact with the 1/4 Armenian, Armenian to Armenian, the 100% one would be just talking to American.

So are those Americans who are 4th generation Americans Germans? Just because they have 100% German blood doesn't make them German and in now way you can compare them to the real Germans in Germany. they are Americans plain and simple.

[MrHyeSev]

Re: Kim Kardashian

No I'm dead serious. Being Armenian is more than just a biological accident. It's about acquiring an Armenian mindset, knowing the language, Armenian church, etc. If you have Armenian blood and grow up not Armenian, and try to interact with actual Armenians they will be foreigners to you, nothing more. It just so happens people with Armenian blood tend to grow up Armenian because they are obviously born to Armenian families. However there are exceptions.

People such as Kim are not Armenian, I don't care if she has 110% Armenian blood, she's grown up an American, with American values, with American mindset, there's nothing Armenian about her...

I would count a 1/4 Armenian whose grown up Armenian, knows language, culture, etc. more Armenian than a 100% Armenian whose grown up as just an American with no exposure to Armenian culture. I could actually interact with the 1/4 Armenian, Armenian to Armenian, the 100% one would be just talking to American.

So are those Americans who are 4th generation Americans Germans? Just because they have 100% German blood doesn't make them German and in now way you can compare them to the real Germans in Germany. they are Americans plain and simple.

Mos, If you don't like her or can't stand her like you say. Then why are you wasting your time replying in every one of her threads. You are getting angry for no reason & + she doesn't even know you. If you dislike something or someone just ignore it.

[Mos]

Re: Kim Kardashian

It's not about her. It's about this notion that once you have Armenian blood that makes you Armenian for life, ignoring all environmental factors like mindset and language. I will stop when people stop referring to her as Armenian, and just American, and thus should be excluded from these forums or moved to "General talk". I could find a random non-Armenian person, and make that person more Armenian than kim in a week, no wait a day.

[MrHyeSev]

Re: Kim Kardashian

It's not about her. It's about this notion that once you have Armenian blood that makes you Armenian for life, ignoring all environmental factors like mindset and language. I will stop when people stop referring to her as Armenian, and just American, and thus should be excluded from these forums or moved to "General talk". I could find a random non-Armenian person, and make that person more Armenian than kim in a week, no wait a day.

But everyone has there own opinion
you're making it seem like what you say is right.

Facts: there dad was Armenian so there are American Armenian...when the dad passed away there were super young & they were raised by 2 Americans. So how can you expect them NOT to be Americanized.

[Mos]

Re: Kim Kardashian

Drop the "Armenian", she's American. I could care less what blood she has, she was raised American, ignorant of anything Armenian, and thus will stay american for rest of her life...

[MrHyeSev]

Re: Kim Kardashian

Drop the "Armenian", she's American. I could care less what blood she has, she was raised American, ignorant of anything Armenian, and thus will stay american for rest of her life...

To each there own
your opinion is yours & mine is mine....we are not gong to convince eachother.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Kim Kardashian

But everyone has there own opinion
you're making it seem like what you say is right.

Facts: there dad was Armenian so there are American Armenian...when the dad passed away there were super young & they were raised by 2 Americans. So how can you expect them NOT to be Americanized.

Their dad was Americanized to begin with, I don't think Kim had an ounce of Armenian influence growing up. Her genes may have traces of Armenian roots but culturally she's as Armenian as Lil Wayne.