Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

I didn't say all. From my experience and in my particular field, I've found that there are higher standards held for men than women. Especially for women with children, there are needs that need to be catered to. Their travel is restricted. They usually avoid doing any hands on work. They are constantly taking days off because their kids are sick. They can't work overtime, etc. Men on the other hand are expected to travel on short notice. Accept any overtime that is needed to get the job done, etc. None of this shouldn't come as a shock... these are the usual issues that have to be dealt with in a society where families are trying to juggle everything on a day to day basis. This is why so many marriages fail.

I mean as a society, it's expected that we help each other out... you know, watch each other's kids, help out when you can, etc. However when it comes to survival (that IS what life is about) in a multicultural society, it's all for one and one for all. I shouldn't be expected to cover for someone because they aren't reliable but since I work for a corporation, it is what it is.

Keep in mind though men are usually paid more than women, men have higher positions than women, and of course there probably have been laws to combat it, but that disparity in income still exists very clearly.

The thing is when 2 people begin a family with kids and everything, sometimes both cannot support the family, and thus the women is forced to work (I mean what else are they supposed to do?) Now, if women wants to work for the heck of it and not raise her kids that's another story as women as responsibility to raise her kids and make a comfortable home environment, but unfortunately this isn't the case always and we just cannot generalise for the whole population, some times women are forced to raise their children alone, it happens, and thus they have to work. So yes I be there will be unfair moments in the workplace as a result, but keep in mind the circumstances that can affect families and women, it's not always that they don't care about their kids and just want to be independent and have a career.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Maybe in an office people can just "show up", but if you work in a hospital or in a factory (I should better say a sweatshop), there's no bloody way you can do it.

Yes, I'm a feminist who worked her ass off for an average 10 hours a day in a factory like a man for 10 years, and proud of that.

Sucks doesn't it? lol What type of factory? I work with robotics and automation.

[Yedtarts]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Yes, I'm a feminist who worked her ass off for an average 10 hours a day in a factory like a man for 10 years, and proud of that.

But I’m pretty sure you blame men in everything that goes wrong in your work or your life, right?

[Tali]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Maybe in an office people can just "show up", but if you work in a hospital or in a factory (I should better say a sweatshop), there's no bloody way you can do it.

Yes, I'm a feminist who worked her ass off for an average 10 hours a day in a factory like a man for 10 years, and proud of that.

good for you Odar that's not an easy task.


so, not everyone feels Armenian women are essentially just baby factories, that they are more than a 2-dimensionable character?

hmm.... if you have children, is the same trend showing up in your kids that they are more "liberal" than you guys are?

[Odar]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Maybe in an office people can just "show up", but if you work in a hospital or in a factory (I should better say a sweatshop), there's no bloody way you can do it.

Yes, I'm a feminist who worked her ass off for an average 10 hours a day in a factory like a man for 10 years, and proud of that.

[Tali]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

google translate for armenian is terrible, it almost never translates a sentence correctly except if it's a really simple sentence like, "the tree is big"

somehow that doesn't surprise me...

what did the phrase mean? how do i say it? i assume it's eastern armenian, right?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Please elaborate, What you mean kids have no relation to you culturally? I still don't see how you infer that in all of society people expect men to work 110% but when it comes to women, all it matters that they show up.

I didn't say all. From my experience and in my particular field, I've found that there are higher standards held for men than women. Especially for women with children, there are needs that need to be catered to. Their travel is restricted. They usually avoid doing any hands on work. They are constantly taking days off because their kids are sick. They can't work overtime, etc. Men on the other hand are expected to travel on short notice. Accept any overtime that is needed to get the job done, etc. None of this should come as a shock... these are the usual issues that have to be dealt with in a society where families are trying to juggle everything on a day to day basis. This is why so many marriages fail.

I mean as a society, it's expected that we help each other out... you know, watch each other's kids, help out when you can, etc. However when it comes to survival (that IS what life is about) in a multicultural society, it's all for one and one for all. I shouldn't be expected to cover for someone because they aren't reliable but since I work for a corporation, it is what it is.

[levon]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Why would men care about what women want? Because if you have that sort of attitude, you'll end up taking whoever will have you.

Nah, that's only true for average men who don't have much ambition and will remain average their whole life. Regardless of how much they care about what women want, they'll always end up taking whoever will have them.

I would hope there's more thought in selecting a lifelong companion and the person who will not only have your kids, but more importantly (though you completely ignored this fact), raise them.

Obviously there is, but you missed the point. Rather than concentrating on what women want, it's much better for a man to spend time furthering his career. If he wants kids, the pool of eligible women (meaning young, hot and not yet retarded from feminism) is larger than when he's a beggar trying desperately to do everything he can to please that one woman in his life hoping that she will choose him.

[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

I infer that if I was in Armenia I probably wouldn't care but seeing that her kids have no relation to me culturally, my time and frustration is really going to waste, lol.

Please elaborate, What you mean kids have no relation to you culturally? I still don't see how you infer that in all of society people expect men to work 110% but when it comes to women, all it matters that they show up.

Damn mos, way to pull a Haykakan.

What are you getting at?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

You don't just club one over the head and drag her home.

Of course not. You get her drunk first.