How does everyone feel about Israel?

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Not according to Israel. Every able-bodied man and woman is a reservist and can be called up to war at any time.

Yes but when they are not serving actively in the army, they are not soldiers but civilians. In Armenia you have a similar provision that can recall all men up to a certain age given the circumstances. That doesn't make everybody a soldier thus a target.

[Federate]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

A soldier is a person who is in uniform and actively serving. A person who once served and has a family and going to the store is a innocent civilian. Just because you served in the army (as a result of a draft) doesn't make you a soldier for life.

Not according to Israel. Every able-bodied man and woman is a reservist and can be called up to war at any time.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Armenians made mostly non-violent protests during the genocide (and this is before Ghandi monopolized the "advent" of peaceful protest). The world saw, the world smiled. Most Armenians died, the end.

If you want to be a Christian is such a situation, have fun... you might become canonized after your dead. The Muslims have a better idea though, why not "canonize" (e.g. explode!) them before they're dead, and kill the enemy!

Again with such attacks Palestinians create a reason for Israeli retaliation. Palestinians should take the initiative and silence the terrorist groups that have spurred such deadly retaliations.

The situation of Armenians in Ottoman Empire cannot be compared here.

The Palestinians would argue that given how every man and woman is conscripted into the Israeli army and are all reservists, there really is no "innocent civilian" (perhaps, other than a child or senior citizen).

A soldier is a person who is in uniform and actively serving. A person who once served and has a family and going to the store is a innocent civilian. Just because you served in the army (as a result of a draft) doesn't make you a soldier for life.

[Federate]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

so that means they should resort to killing innocent civilians? That "eye for an eye" notion is very primitive and anti-Christian.

The Palestinians would argue that given how every man and woman is conscripted into the Israeli army and are all reservists, there really is no "innocent civilian" (perhaps, other than a child or senior citizen).

[jgk3]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

killing innocent people doesn't make your martyr. It makes you a murderer. Palestinians should realize that be retaliating like that they are just getting down to the level of the people they accuse of killing their own people. Very hypocritical. If they want to make a point, let them do it non-violently, and the world will see. Plus, the terrorist groups that Israel tries to root out often use civilians as human shields, so those groups as very much at fault as well...

Armenians made mostly non-violent protests during the genocide (and this is before Ghandi monopolized the "advent" of peaceful protest). The world saw, the world smiled. Most Armenians died, the end.

If you want to be a Christian is such a situation, have fun... you might become canonized after your dead. The Muslims have a better idea though, why not "canonize" (e.g. explode!) them before they're dead, and kill the enemy!

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

So how many martyrs does it take until the rest of the population realizes that the opposition doesn't understand peace?

killing innocent people doesn't make your martyr. It makes you a murderer. Palestinians should realize that be retaliating like that they are just getting down to the level of the people they accuse of killing their own people. Very hypocritical. If they want to make a point, let them do it non-violently, and the world will see. Plus, the terrorist groups that Israel tries to root out often use civilians as human shields, so those groups as very much at fault as well...

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

so that means they should resort to killing innocent civilians? That "eye for an eye" notion is very primitive and anti-Christian.

So how many martyrs does it take until the rest of the population realizes that the opposition doesn't understand peace?

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Wasn't there an American protester that got bulldozed for trying to stop the new settlements that Israel was building? What usually happens during peaceful protests is the opposition uses a few protesters as an example of what will happen to the rest of them if they don't give up their cause. Ghandi was assassinated along with MLK and Mandela got tossed in prison.

so that means they should resort to killing innocent civilians? That "eye for an eye" notion is very primitive and anti-Christian.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Agree. I feel bad for the Palestinians the most but they would probably have advanced their cause more (and perhaps have been successful) through mass, peaceful protest-something akin to what Ghandi was able to achieve in India or MLK or Mandela in S.Africa. I really do think that could have worked but its now too late.

Wasn't there an American protester that got bulldozed for trying to stop the new settlements that Israel was building? What usually happens during peaceful protests is the opposition uses a few protesters as an example of what will happen to the rest of them if they don't give up their cause. Ghandi was assassinated along with MLK and Mandela got tossed in prison.

[Joseph]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Agree. I feel bad for the Palestinians the most but they would probably have advanced their cause more (and perhaps have been successful) through mass, peaceful protest-something akin to what Ghandi was able to achieve in India or MLK or Mandela in S.Africa. I really do think that could have worked but its now too late.