How does everyone feel about Israel?

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

This whole thread is disgusting. I'm going to ask that it be erased. From now on when some does a google search on Armenians and xxxs, or David Duke, etc, this thread will pop up. Why can't people argue in a mature manner w/o name calling and hyperbole. We look stupid and hateful. Are we no better than those that commit genocide?

It's hard to keep my cool, when some people here support people like Duke and subscribe to such Neo-nazi beliefs. Or use picture of dead Palestinian baby's to try to prove that Israel is this evil power hell bent on killing all Palestinians.....

[Joseph]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

This whole thread is disgusting. I'm going to ask that it be erased. From now on when some does a google search on Armenians and xxxs, or David Duke, etc, this thread will pop up. Why can't people argue in a mature manner w/o name calling and hyperbole. We look stupid and hateful. Are we no better than those that commit genocide?

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

The only world where Duke is a "neo-Nazi" is a politically correct world.

So Azar you support Hitler as well? You support Ku Klux Klan? Ahmadinejad would be proud of your neo-Nazi and anti-Semitic support...

[Azar]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Supporting a bigoted neo-Nazi is just beyond my comprehension.

The same "neo-Nazi" who has made videos exposing the xxxish hand behind the African slave trade? The only world where Duke is a "neo-Nazi" is a politically correct world.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

So the use of white phosphorous by the Israeli military on civilians was indirect? The carnage in Sabra and Shatila was indirect? The terrorist bombing of the King David hotel in Palestine by Zionist terror groups was indirect? The list goes on and on.

The carnage in Sabra and Shatila was committed directly by the Christian groups, and happened knowingly under the Israeli noses. Of course you ignore how Christians were massacred by the Lebanese Muslim factions and how these massacres were a see-saw between the Muslim and Christian factions....The King David bombing was done by an extremist Israeli group so analogous to the Palestinian extremist groups, and I can also present you a much more longer list of all the times Palestinians have targeted and killed innocent civilians or used their own people as human shields...

Are you for real or when you heard Duke’s name just panicked and didn’t know what to write and started typing anything came to your mind? Aren’t you the one defending Israel although we very well know how many resolutions UN has taken against it (convicted, yet you defend it). yet this guy was never convicted, and if I’m not mistaken he is or was a senator. In America you’re innocent till you’re found guilty.
And one more thing, freedom of speech don’t give people an excuse to lie, you cannot lie about people or a group under the name of “freedom of speech” if you lie you can be sued and put in jail. If this guy is out and keeps on talking there must be something right about what he’s saying.

Um, no that's not how it works. You have all the right to say stupid and wrong things (freedom of speech is not only protecting speech that's "correct") it's people who are at fault for being idiots and listening.

You know I've lost all respect for you. Supporting a bigoted neo-Nazi is just beyond my comprehension. What's next quoting Mein Kampf to show that xxxs are inferior or something? I really wouldn't be surprised. All this guy does is spread around hate and an idiotic viewpoint of the world around him. Do you also support KKK? Nazis? Holocaust? Russian skin heads? If you support this guy, the answers to those question should be obvious.

Aren’t you the one defending Israel

No, I'm rebutting this hysteria of victimizing the Palestinians and demonizing the Israelis. Looking at pictures of dead Palestinian children making idiotic conclusions without looking at the facts. Making this a matter of emotion rather than an unbiased look at the facts at hand.

Buying naively into a hysteria spread by Islamic extremists like Ahmadinejad who could care less about civilian lives but about their own hateful political goals and in Yedtart's case using Nazi and White Supremacist propaganda.

If you wish to go identify yourself with that branch of Islam go right ahead, but remember you are abandoning Armenia in the process who has suffered a great deal because of Islamic extremism. From the adoption of Christianity, Islamic powers have tried to subjugate us, conquer us, from the Arabs to the Persians, and eventually during the Genocide where because of our religion the Ottoman Muslims massacred 1.5 million of our own people, and all the way up to Karabakh war where Afghan and Chechen Islamic groups supported Azeris.

open your eyes, take a balanced approach, and stop hating.

[Yedtarts]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

You don't need a court to label him as a Neo-Nazi. He was head of the KKK for crying out loud, you really have to be a deranged racist to be head of that group. And no, people don't go to jail for the ideas, there's free speech. He can say all the lies and BS he wants, the law can't touch him in America. I know very well what he says and it fits into the general pattern of all the other neo-Nazis. As an Armenian how can you even contemplate to support Nazi ideology? Try going to Russia and tell the neo-Nazis there that you are Armenian, they will run after you with an ax. Remember how many Armenians gave up their lives fighting against that ideology. It's a real shame what you're are doing and I hope you stop.

People like Duke and other neo-Nazi fanatics are well cornered off by the rest populace, especially by the educated ones. They are in the extreme minority and will stay like that and hopefully go away some day.

Are you for real or when you heard Duke’s name just panicked and didn’t know what to write and started typing anything came to your mind? Aren’t you the one defending Israel although we very well know how many resolutions UN has taken against it (convicted, yet you defend it). yet this guy was never convicted, and if I’m not mistaken he is or was a senator. In America you’re innocent till you’re found guilty.
And one more thing, freedom of speech don’t give people an excuse to lie, you cannot lie about people or a group under the name of “freedom of speech” if you lie you can be sued and put in jail. If this guy is out and keeps on talking there must be something right about what he’s saying.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

And that gives justification to go and kill innocent civilians? Any person who justifies the murder of innocent civilians is a deeply disturbed individual.

One side is labelled terrorists because they specifically target civilians, while the other side tries to root out those groups, and unfortunately in the process civilians get killed either because the terrorist groups use them as human shields or carelessness by the Israeli army results in this, but the bottom line is it's indirect.

So the use of white phosphorous by the Israeli military on civilians was indirect? The carnage in Sabra and Shatila was indirect? The terrorist bombing of the King David hotel in Palestine by Zionist terror groups was indirect? The list goes on and on.

[Azar]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Labelling the guy? He's a neo-Nazi how can you even give him the credit of listening to him? Yes I think his whole Fascist and racist ideology is wrong, the only people that support him are the backwards farmers of the American deep south. You want to associate yourself with them go ahead...

Even the best intellectuals will listen/read the stuff of shady people, knowledge is knowledge, let people gather new ideas, it doesn't mean they want to "support him".

It's a disgusting shirt, but you can find plenty of similar propaganda against the West/Israel among Palestinians and arab world (especially Iran where the religion is fused with hatred of the West).

Oh please, now you've shown your true colors. The majority of Iranians don't care one bit about Islam or any of that religion garbage. You'll find more religious Christians in Iran than religious Muslims. You think the youth in Iran are praying on the weekends? Hahaha

No, we should recognize that both commit crimes, and say that one side is right over the other is silly. We also have to recognize that Palestinian terrorist groups often use their own people as human shields and thus the illusion is created that Israelis are somehow targeting innocent civilians, when Palestinian terrorist groups specifically target innocent civilians as they are to scared to confront the Israeli army.

Which side has taken more civilian casualties again? Feel free to tell me, you seem to know everything about the conflict. People were forced out of their land, now you see them as the bad guys for wanting their families to be safe from attacks and raids.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Tell you what, we'll put you in Gaza behind the giant Gaza wall armed with stones and see if you're too scared to confront the Israeli army.

One side isn't right but if you're going to fight, fight fair. Notice that when two other countries like Iran and Iraq went to war, the American weapons industry made sure that both sides had enough fire power to obliterate each other. Why shouldn't Hezbollah be able to import weapons into Lebanon when Israel imports billions of weapons from America? Why is one side labeled terrorists when the other side is the oppressor and has all the weapons?

And that gives justification to go and kill innocent civilians? Any person who justifies the murder of innocent civilians is a deeply disturbed individual.

One side is labelled terrorists because they specifically target civilians, while the other side tries to root out those groups, and unfortunately in the process civilians get killed either because the terrorist groups use them as human shields or carelessness by the Israeli army results in this, but the bottom line is it's indirect.

First of all, in which court he was found guilty of these charges and was convicted? Secondly, if what this guy was saying are lies he would be in jail long time ago. And if you think the only people that support him are backward farmers of the deep south? I would give him some more time and see who are the real people that support him. Silencing people and oppressing them, twisting their words and labeling them by neo cons or neo zionists criminals won’t last long because people are waking up slowly and realizing what is going on, and who’s saying the truth and who’s not.

You don't need a court to label him as a Neo-Nazi. He was head of the KKK for crying out loud, you really have to be a deranged racist to be head of that group. And no, people don't go to jail for the ideas, there's free speech. He can say all the lies and BS he wants, the law can't touch him in America. I know very well what he says and it fits into the general pattern of all the other neo-Nazis. As an Armenian how can you even contemplate to support Nazi ideology? Try going to Russia and tell the neo-Nazis there that you are Armenian, they will run after you with an ax. Remember how many Armenians gave up their lives fighting against that ideology. It's a real shame what you're are doing and I hope you stop.

People like Duke and other neo-Nazi fanatics are well cornered off by the rest populace, especially by the educated ones. They are in the extreme minority and will stay like that and hopefully go away some day.

[Yedtarts]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Labelling the guy? He's a neo-Nazi how can you even give him the credit of listening to him? Yes I think his whole Fascist and racist ideology is wrong, the only people that support him are the backwards farmers of the American deep south. You want to associate yourself with them go ahead...

First of all, in which court he was found guilty of these charges and was convicted? Secondly, if what this guy was saying are lies he would be in jail long time ago. And if you think the only people that support him are backward farmers of the deep south? I would give him some more time and see who are the real people that support him. Silencing people and oppressing them, twisting their words and labeling them by neo cons or neo zionists criminals won’t last long because people are waking up slowly and realizing what is going on, and who’s saying the truth and who’s not.