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Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

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  • #11
    Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

    I don't like the GALAS label. A society is made up of people, their sexual orientation doesn't give them a right to be part of a separate society.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #12
      Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

      that's a whole separate debate.
      it's just like a club, really. for instance, this forum. it's purpose is for Armenians.
      GALAS, is for gay/lesbian armenians.

      it's an organization, not a society so to speak

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      • #13
        Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

        Originally posted by Tali View Post
        that's a whole separate debate.
        it's just like a club, really. for instance, this forum. it's purpose is for Armenians.
        GALAS, is for gay/lesbian armenians.

        it's an organization, not a society so to speak
        That's what I mean. It segregates people. It should be called Society of Armenians for Gays and Lesbians. Basically Armenians who support Gays and Lesbians regardless of their orientation. Their sponsors and speakers probably aren't even gay.
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • #14
          Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

          Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
          That's what I mean. It segregates people. It should be called Society of Armenians for Gays and Lesbians. Basically Armenians who support Gays and Lesbians regardless of their orientation. Their sponsors and speakers probably aren't even gay.
          they are.
          and the specific charter i joined, one of the members is one of my bf's cousins. he's gay.

          It could've been SALAG, but GALAS comes off the tongue faster. it's a preference thing. it still means what you're suggesting.

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          • #15
            Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

            Originally posted by Tali View Post
            they are.
            and the specific charter i joined, one of the members is one of my bf's cousins. he's gay.

            It could've been SALAG, but GALAS comes off the tongue faster. it's a preference thing. it still means what you're suggesting.
            Is he gay first then Armenian or Armenian first then gay? I don't find allowing a segment of society to segregate as being progressive.

            For example "African American" suggests as though they are different than other Americans when in fact all Americans are immigrants. They are merely assimilated Africans, culturally there is nothing African about them aside from their roots.
            Last edited by KanadaHye; 02-22-2011, 07:40 PM.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #16
              Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              Is he gay first then Armenian or Armenian first then gay? I don't find allowing a segment of society to segregate as being progressive.
              Armenian first. You don't even have to be gay to join - just don't join to bash them or their efforts either

              they only arranged it the way they did because it was easier and "catchier" to say.

              for example:
              say outloud: GAL-usssssssss
              now try: SUH-laggggggg (you wind up saying "guh guh guh..")

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              • #17
                Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

                Parades started at a time when gays suffered active harassment from police, mobsters and self-appointed "vigilantes", to show in a very '70-ish way that they wouldn't hide any longer.
                Anyway, now they're just a revelry, often a pretty vulgar one, and completely useless as an activist tactic. And the music sucks
                Also, I don't like ramming whatever down people's throats, such as in Tigranakert's example. It's not that way that you can teach people to be "tolerant".

                The problem with African-Americans is that they were NOT immigrants. They were kidnapped and brought there as slaves, and when slavery was abolished they were subdued through segregation and lynching. Now there are immigrants from Africa but originally the term referred to the slaves' descendants.
                Last edited by Odar; 02-22-2011, 07:58 PM.

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                • #18
                  Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

                  Well, most people don't care how old Elton John is... they just say "who cares, the kid is going to be rich". Great, I'm sure the kid won't be exploited his whole life much like his old man (no pun intended).
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #19
                    Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

                    Originally posted by Odar View Post
                    I'm for legal unions but I feel pretty uneasy when it comes to having children. I mean what Elton John did was definitely a bad idea, and not only because he and his partner belong to the same sex. Even if it was a het couple, it'd be wrong wrong wrong.
                    Also, I don't like ramming whatever down people's throats, such as in Tigranakert's example. It's not that way that you can teach people to be "tolerant".
                    i'm admittedly nervous about having children with my Armenian boyfriend. their mother is bisexual and not Armenian. from that alone i know they'll face a lot of ridicule and rough times. i hope not nearly as much as i have.

                    there is no way to teach tolerance. that's up to the individual

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                    • #20
                      Re: Are you okay with Gay Armenians?

                      Originally posted by Tali View Post
                      i'm admittedly nervous about having children with my Armenian boyfriend. their mother is bisexual and not Armenian. from that alone i know they'll face a lot of ridicule and rough times. i hope not nearly as much as i have.

                      there is no way to teach tolerance. that's up to the individual
                      they will face ridicule if they go to Armenia, in America it's well accepted those kind of situations.
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