Socio-racial survey for Armenian members

[Hayq]

ARMENIAN! I believe the best way for Europe to invade Armenia is increase the standard of Armenian Universities and keep prices low so European Youth could come in and most likely stay.

If you mean miltarily then...NEVER!

BTW, are you the same Armenian from SF?

[Armenian]

BTW, are you the same Armenian from SF?

There is only one "Armenian."

Who may I ask are 'you' my very perceptive friend?

[Thai-Samurai]

[QUOTE=Hayq]ARMENIAN! I believe the best way for Europe to invade Armenia is increase the standard of Armenian Universities and keep prices low so European Youth could come in and most likely stay.

QUOTE]

what would that lead to? Do you think that's good or bad?

[Yuro]

European, Asian, Mediterranean, or Middle Eastern?

A lot of people tell me that oh Armenia is Asian , or Middle Eastern . Once a priest asked me where I was from and when I replied Armenia, he said; - oh an exotic country . I was like yeah , that's right???

Anyway, what do the people around you(and yourself) consider Armenia being? European, Asian, Mediterranean, or Middle Eastern?

Err, and I'd also like to know what's Armenia's modern Position? European or Asian. So many resources have different views. Baron Dants?

[!EEK]

Well, if your sticking to the geography, Armenia is middel eastern/asian because the region of the Caucasus is far beyond the European part of Russia (and beyond the Ural ..)...so there's no doubt about it.

But Armenia has always been a haven of christianity in an Islamic region, and has a rather western way of life *thanks* to the USSR. So we can't assimilate them with Middel Eastern populations.

In any case "Asia" was just made up..there are no clear boundaries (the ural isn't a real one). Historians/Geographs used it to differenciate their culture from the "barbarians"



And about the priester saying Armenia is exotic, there's nothing special about it.... For us, Australia, the US, etc... are exotics. "being or from or characteristic of another place or part of the world" thats the exact definition of exotic.

[xBaron Dants]

!eek, the southern border of Europe is considered by many to be the Caucasus, so anyone who argues that Armenia isn't part of Europe shouldn't say that it is "far beyond". It's mostly a matter of is the Caucasus the Southwestern part of Asia, or the South Eastern part of Europe? The answers vary depending on who you ask.

As for Armenia's modern position, I would consider it to be European because of the many European institutions it is now a member of, the Council of Europe being the most important one.

[Tigranes]

Well, if your sticking to the geography, Armenia is middel eastern/asian because the region of the Caucasus is far beyond the European part of Russia (and beyond the Ural ..)...so there's no doubt about it.

No. Those are socio-political boundaries. There is no geographic division in Eurasia. British Isles and Greenland are in Europe even though they're not part of the mainland...
The longest standing borders in the East were that of the Urals in the North and the Caspian in the South.

But Armenia has always been a haven of christianity in an Islamic region, and has a rather western way of life *thanks* to the USSR. So we can't assimilate them with Middel Eastern populations.

What a bunch of horsexxxx. USSR was hardly Western, if anything it de-Westernized Armenia as much as the asiatic nomads and the middle eastern savages did. Armenia is and was Western because of Armenians.

[!EEK]

What a bunch of horsexxxx. USSR was hardly Western, if anything it de-Westernized Armenia as much as the asiatic nomads and the middle eastern savages did. Armenia is and was Western because of Armenians.

Mass industrialisation, zeal (stakanovisme), building of infrastructures thanks to USSR's postion of first industrial power back then, research in nuclear can't be considered de-westernizing stuff. If you are thinking a mere US vs USSR cold war situation where only the "Free world" was western then you are wrong. We are not talking about communisme here or any other ideologies.

Of course, I won't argue with some thinking that unless I share the same ideas, I'm a horsexxxx.....

[!EEK]

No. Those are socio-political boundaries. There is no geographic division in Eurasia. British Isles and Greenland are in Europe even though they're not part of the mainland...
The longest standing borders in the East were that of the Urals in the North and the Caspian in the South..

I mentionned "Asia" was a purely fictional continent....

[Tigranes]

Mass industrialisation, zeal (stakanovisme), building of infrastructures thanks to russia's postion of first industrial power back then, research in nuclear can't be considered de-westernizing stuff. If you are thinking a mere US vs USSR cold war situation where only the "Free world" was western then you are wrong. We are not talking about communisme here or any other ideologies.

Of course, I won't argue with some thinking that unless I share the same ideas, I'm a horsexxxx.....

Russia did not exist back then

Most of that was pioneered by Armenians anyway.

You're talking about something completely different. Japan & S.Korea are Western

Excerpts from "The Contribution of Armenians to the 20th Century Culture"

Natural Sciences and Technology
Since early history Armenians were known as skilled merchants that travelled far and wide which made them conversant in astronomy, geography, and mathematics. Thousands of years ago Armenians domesticated wild wheat and apricots. As early as the 9th century BC they cultivated grapes and made wine. Armenians processed metal already in the 6th millennia BC. One of the oldest Armenian states, The Nairi Araratian Kingdom (Urartu called by Assyrians & Armina by Greeks and Persians) came into being in the 9th century BC. Armenian culture flourished anew in the 20th century. Physiologist Levon Orbeli was Ivan Pavlov's closest associate and one of the founders of evolutionary physiology. With the advent of the Space Age Norayr Sissakian advanced the Soviet program of cosmic biology and medicine. Luigi Camician developed photochemistry. Chemist Ivan Knunyants made discoveries in photo-organic chemistry and synthesized capron, which was widely used in the industry. Nikoghayos Yenikopelian, a renowned physical chemist, made important discoveries of synthetic polymers. Vassil Tahirov upgraded viticulture in Armenia to a science and blended the first brandies that earned world-wide recognition. Astrophysicist Viktor Hambartsoumian succeeded Orbeli as the president of the Armenian Academy of Sciences and made substantial breakthroughs in the modern understanding of the evolution of the universe. Abraham Alikhanov was among the pillars of Soviet school of nuclear physics. He was one of the creators of the first heavy water nuclear reactor in the USSR. Samvel Kochariants was for many the mastermind behind three generations of Soviet nuclear weaponry. Sargis Saltikov developed new alloys and the discipline of stereometric metallurgy. Andranik Hovsepian was the pioneer of Soviet electrotechnical engineering, he was responsible for electrical guts of most rockets and designed Soviet Meteor meteorological satellites. Artem Mikoyan was the chief designer and founder of several generations of MIG jet fighters that ensured Soviet air domination in the 50's and continued to protect the borders several decades thereafter.