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  • #31
    Originally posted by Siamanto
    !IKE has a point!

    Awwwww Siamanto... that's so kind..

    After that Euro arguing, you still admit that I have a point, very fair play

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    • #32
      Originally posted by !IKE
      Awwwww Siamanto... that's so kind..

      After that Euro arguing, you still admit that I have a point, very fair play
      !eeeeke, il faut pas en faire un plat!
      What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Siamanto
        !eeeeke, il faut pas en faire un plat!
        maybe gul is from glukh (head).
        In which case it's the head of the rose.
        Maybe? No? Ok, it was worth a try?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Che_Ka
          Gul is a Turkish name, so maybe that might help...[
          Originally posted by Siamanto
          Che_Ka,
          I'm afraid that is pure homophonic coincidence! Gulvart is an Armenian first name - like Sirvart etc.
          More later! I have to go!
          I found the following:

          1- "daughter Rose Gulvart Goins Diaz (deceased) who had four sons, Clinton Goins who with his wife Julia live in North Kingstown"
          http://www.providenceri.com/heritage_park/ARMENIAN_HERITAGE_PARK7.html


          2- Gul in *urkish means "rose."

          3- A search of "gulvart," "goulvart," "goolvart" and "gulvarte" lead to Armenians; while "Gul" and "Gulen" to *urks.

          Can it be that it's more than a pure homophonic coincidence? Maybe I spoke too soon!
          I'm still not convinced if , in fact, "gul" in "Gulvart" is of *urkish origin? I'll investigate a bit more!
          Also, are we sure that the ending is the word "vart" i.e. "rose?"






          Originally posted by karoaper
          maybe gul is from glukh (head).
          In which case it's the head of the rose.
          Maybe? No? Ok, it was worth a try?
          Is the city of Gurun a symbol of the spring i.e. karun????



          Originally posted by Che_Ka
          Oops! lol
          While we all know what "sir" in "Sirvart" means, what does the "gool" in "Goolvart" mean?
          What does "sir" mean? If you are assuming that "sir" means love, then what happened to the "a" i.e. Sir[a]vart?



          Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk" or "*urkish" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations!
          Last edited by Siamanto; 06-26-2005, 02:17 PM.
          What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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