Turkey, get out of my land!!!

[Siamanto]

Parasites!? We're not sucking up to Russia and beg them for money to deal with our horrible economy sweetheart. You have always been used by other nations throughout your history! Greeks, Persians, Turks, and now Russians. Now you guys keep crying, begging to the west so that they may accept your claims, "Hey look, these Turks killed our dads and phucked our moms and now we dont know who our fathers are." Just pathetic! So that they may force Turkey to give you some money so that you can actually eat some quality foods and stop having bad breath. When will you be assuming any national personality? Really? You're just a bunch of cry babies who can't handle their own business and have to ask the parents for support and assistance! So sweeet!

Armenia is not "sucking up to Russia:" that is called alliance, koylu! LOL!
However, TEMPORARILY SO CALLED Turkey - that we will dismantle - has been shamelessly begging to Europeans for the last four decades, despite the fact that the Europeans feel contempt towards your Civilization!
I won't be surprised if the - yet another - "dream of the EU membership" will not known the destiny of previous promises made by Europe to *urks. Of course, your provincial macho and naive mindset does not allow you to be more realistic and humble! Continue bragging Central Asian Taliban minded koylu!
What allowed the *urkish unstable economy to float is the money to constantly begged for! It seems that the job of a mad dog pays well! LOL!
So, for how long will you continue to lie, beg and do the mad god, Central Asian Looter? LOL!

What's the matter, Siamanto? The camera-man was Turkish? Having an affair with your mommy behind the camera when he took the picture? Your father couldn't do a damn about it?

Here, come here sweetness... I'll give you some Turkish money, go buy some candy and share with your other crying friends...

I see that you started to insult: is that a sign that the mad dog *urk is showing its true face! LOL!
By the way, as you get mad, your English becomes as unintelligible as your compatriots'! The primitive beast in you awakens. LOL!

Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk" or "*urkish" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations!

[TUR-Friend]

Well, if insulting you a little bit makes me a beast, then you must be an unimaginably horrible creature because insulting and lying is all that you do in this forum.

Let's be honest for a moment here... Armenia DOES suck up to Russia for money and protection. We've all done our homework, so let's take the facts for granted. Will Turkey make it into the EU? I don't know, and I don't give a damn. I don't support that project. We'll see what will happen at the end of this year, as the negotiations begin.

What I'm seriously wondering is if you really do believe that you will eventually kick Turks out of Anatolia? I mean, come on Siamanto, unless you're on drugs or something, you've got to know that Armenia will never be able to achieve such a thing. And when you'll be able, the Earth will have been probably destroyed long ago, so there won't be an Anatolia or a Great Armenian Empire to fight for.

I know it and you know it. So, my suggestion to you is, stop living in your pink world and accept the phucking reality.

BTW, do you really think that I look macho in my awatar? Thanks. According to a scientific article that I read, most women *instinctively* choose to be with the more virile type. And you, my friend, may be a lucky one!

[Siamanto]

Well, if insulting you a little bit makes me a beast, then you must be an unimaginably horrible creature because insulting and lying is all that you do in this forum.

Koylu, that's your assumption, based on a "Logic???" that only *urks understand! Don't worry, reasoning and perspicacity never characterized *urks.

Let's be honest for a moment here... Armenia DOES suck up to Russia for money and protection. We've all done our homework, so let's take the facts for granted. Will Turkey make it into the EU? I don't know, and I don't give a damn. I don't support that project. We'll see what will happen at the end of this year, as the negotiations begin.

What I'm seriously wondering is if you really do believe that you will eventually kick Turks out of Anatolia? I mean, come on Siamanto, unless you're on drugs or something, you've got to know that Armenia will never be able to achieve such a thing. And when you'll be able, the Earth will have been probably destroyed long ago, so there won't be an Anatolia or a Great Armenian Empire to fight for.

I know it and you know it. So, my suggestion to you is, stop living in your pink world and accept the phucking reality.

I've already answered that. Maybe if you keep on repeating what you've been told about Armenia and Armenians, it may become true! LOL!
Yes Mr. Turkey, continue to do the ostrich!

BTW, do you really think that I look macho in my awatar? Thanks. According to a scientific article that I read, most women *instinctively* choose to be with the more virile type.

Yes koylu, you look macho *LOL* and I am so impressed! I can't stop thinking of you! LOL! What a loser!



Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk" or "*urkish" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotations!

[thinktwice]

TUR-Friend don't waste your time and get a life, diaspora people totally racist...

[eMachine]

TUR-Friend don't waste your time and get a life, diaspora people totally racist...

wasting time??? you got it wrong buddy, we were just having fun in armenian forums =))

2 or 3 million populated armenia [and few million in other countries, we call girlies] against 70 million populated turkey... hmm if you think 18 million kurds, and total 1 million jew+christians, still we turks have %80 population of turkey.

armenians just believes russians? well russia masturbating on armenian lands, how do they believe?

even russian nationalists got bored and realized that armenian population treats russians, and they want armenians to get out of russia...

here few example of the great armenians and armenian army

here you can find an army which couldnt modernize and looks terrible,

and

here few girlie armenian outside of armenia

here is poor turks and their poor army, called Koylu:

koylu soldiers

and

koylu soldiers

god damn it!!! look to basic differences... and these KOYLU soldiers only from Turk Naval Forces... i did not check air forces genderme komando and other kinds =))

Damn it Russia has a strong relations last 2 years and Putin trying to make it stronger because of the Russian F*cked Economy... Russian economy terrible than even armenia =)) they even couldnt beat chechens...

Istanbul full of poor Russians and Russian bit*ches on streets... whatta h*ll are you talking about???

dont make me laugh...
if you are so breave do not erase this my text and these pictures. i know its shame for you armenians =))

[eMachine]

you can tease somebody with english skill, you can have fun, you can turn yourself on and be orgasm but when it comes to fight, you will become a girlie... a day, you shall se real power. 1.5 million lies are nothing... now i have more reason to kill more b*stard... =)) and you are giving chance and more anger to Turks with your weird and low skilled acts...
ciao babes, im gonna be in greece 1 week

[winoman]

An Armenain living in Istanbul speaks of his experiences

Today, there are nearly 50.00 Armenians living in Istanbul. The population is distributed all over the city. The rights of the community is secured after the Lausanne treaty(1922). According to the international agreements, the three minorities in Istanbul(Greeks, Armenians and Jews) have right to worship, speek their mother tongues and educate their children at their own schools. According to the laws of the Turkish laws, there's no difference among each citizen living in Turkey. On paper, Republic of Turkey is a secular state.
The problems come out by the misapplication of the rules, or the application of the "de facto" rules. Especially, after Mustafa Kemal Ataturk died in 1938, the pressure over the minorities increased. From then on, the governments took many unfair decisions to assimilate or to reduce the non-muslim comunities. First of all, "Varlik Vergisi"(Prosperity Tax) was applied in 1942. According to the tax law, the citizens were divided into three parts: (a)Muslims (b)Non-Muslims (c)Donmeler(muslims, formerly Christian or Jew). Each fraction was made to pay different amount of taxes. Of course, the Non-Muslim fraction was forced to pay incredibly high amounts of money, while the muslims pay reasonable amounts. Those, who couldn't pay the money were captured in the working camps of the deserted Southeastern Parts of Turkey. Many fled away from Turkey. Nearly half of the non-muslim population of the country emigrated to other countries. These people made their destination countries richer with their hardworking and intelligence. Republic of Turkey lost many things after this emigration, but it was just the thing the "Inonu" government wanted:"to nationalize the capital" they began to succeed. Many Turkish bankers, businessmen, factory owners became very rich.

Following years, Menderes was elected to the government in the first multi-parties election. Menderes and his team was conservative and nationalist, some of them were even fundemental muslims. After the rule of Menderes, Republic of Turkey started to shift to the right wing and islamic world.

Menderes started a campaign against the non-muslim communities : "vatandas, Turkce konus!", which means "citizen, speak Turkish". This campaign led many conflict between nationalist Turks and the minority members. Slowly and slowly, by these kinds of campaigns, the Menderes government succeeded to establish hatred between Turks and other groups.

The most horrible event occured on 6th and 7th of September 1955. After a false news reporting that the house of Ataturk at Thessaloniki was bombed by Greeks, large crowds of people brainwashed by the campaigns of the government filled the streets. They were shouting with anger, blaming the non-muslims. They broke the shop windows, broke the cars, burnt down the houses, raped young girls, plundered and stole. Only the non-muslims were the targets. Noone harmed from the muslims, only those who wanted to protect their Christian or Jewish neighbour. After the events, the Istiklal Street was totally full of broken glass, reminding the Cyristal Night of Nazi Germany. Those, who took leading role in the events were taken to the court, but they are freed after ridicilous punishment. This was a proof that the events were guided by the Menderes government.



Istiklal Street after the events
The main aim were the Greeks. They were the ones most harmed by the events. Nearly two third of the Greeks emmigrated to Greece just after 1955. Also many Armenian shops were stoned, many houses were burned, many girls were raped. Also, after 1955, many Armenians were left without money, no home and no job. Thousands went to United States, Germany, Canada or even Australia. There were not as lucky as the Greeks, because they didn't have a country to be easily accepted.

The 70s passed with the terrorist activities of ASALA against Turkish ambassies. Every attack caused hatred in Turkey for the Armenian race. Also the press and the television helped to grow this hatred. During nearly 15 years, the Armenian community passed their one of the hardest times in Istanbul. They confronted insults and accusations. Armenians were isolated from social life. Many Turks regarded their old Armenian friends as potential terrorists. The reports, given regularily by the Armenian Patriarchate condemning all kinds of terrorist acts didn't make any difference. There were even Armenian Ministers in Turkish government once, but then no Armenians were accepted even for the simplest state jobs. The pressure to the Armenian schools, churches and press was increased. Thir accounts were frequently checked. Frequently, you could read a news about an Armenian blamed for helping ASALA. At those years, an Armenian youngman burnt himself at Taksim Square to protest the pressure on them.

Years passed, and little has changed. Nationalism in Turkey is growing fast, like all in the world. When the conflict at Nogorno Karabag started, the Turkish Goverment immidiately took side with the Azarbaijani Turks. Nearly %100 of Turkish people believes that Azarbaijani side is the one whose rights are taken off, and the Armenians are those who are attacking to innocent Azarbaijan. Noone knows what is exactly going on, and the reason for the fight, but they believe that Azerbaijanees are right. So once again, the Armenian community is under suspect. Many Armenians in Istanbul even do not know where Karabag is, but they are accused of giving aid to Armenia. I see many things written on the walls at Kurtulush, Shishli and other places where the Armenians live densely, many bad words against Armenian which I'm ashamed of writing here.

When something happens bad to the Turks living outside of Turkey, the government stresses the pressure to the ethnic minorities. For example, when there were severe Armenian attacks to Karabag, the government banned the Armenian Schools to give education in Armenian. It was a clear violation of International and Turkish Laws. They closed up some Armenian schools, churches and newspapers. The ban for Armenian Language was pulled back thanks to the international human right institutions and some Turkish intellectuals.

The conflict at Karabagh seems calmed down, but the prejudice for the Armenian community still goes on. The government and the media tries to put hatred between Turks and Armenians. Today there's nearly no Greek community living in Istanbul(only 3.000, maybe less). So, being the largest non-muslim community in Turkey, generally Armenians are regarded as targets for the nationalists. Each time when there's a crisis in Turkey, government puts forward a nationalist subject to discuss. Unfortunately, it works.

The media and the government succeeded to link the Kurdish problem to the Armenians. The head of PKK, Abdullah Ocalan was accused to be an Armenian so as to be hated by the Turks. There is a common belief that PKK is leaded by the Armenians.

Also, the growth of fundamentalism is another threat for the Armenians. When I was completing my postpone process at the military office in Istanbul, I saw a young man(Christian, most probabily Armenian) talking to four Turkish men. They realized that he is a Christian and they were trying to convert him to Islam. Fortunately, by talking. The thing is, that boy was not enjoying the situation.

Last year, there was a heavy discussion of a list, passed by fax machines. The list was composed of the non-muslim shops and businessmen. On the fax message transmitted by many unknown fax terminals, there were nearly a hundred shops owned by Armenians, Greeks and Jews and at the bottom of the page, there was a warning: "please do not get any contact with these shops, because they are not Muslim". This act was not approved by most of the Turkish citizens, and many people sended fax messages listing the fundamental islamic establishments that should be careful.

There were many problems, which I didn't mention or I can't remember. But some of the problems are common with the muslim Turks as human right violations. Both Armenians and Turks wait for a more democratic Turkey.

[winoman]

Greeks (those left) - not too happy either...

http://turkeyhumanrights.fw.bz/Polis.htm

[bell-the-cat]

BTW, do you really think that I look macho in my awatar? Thanks. According to a scientific article that I read, most women *instinctively* choose to be with the more virile type. And you, my friend, may be a lucky one!

Actually, you look like someone who has been regularly buggered by their father from an early age, and, based on your "please, I want more" expression, I think you are looking forward to going home for the summer holidays.

[TUR-Friend]

Dude, considering your slobbering mouth and slightly scared impression, I guess I shouldn't have showed you my big nice Turkish member just because you begged for it since I mistakenly kicked your little kitten balls while trying to direct you to a dumpster.

WHoa! What the phuck did I just say? Bearghh, you make me write long and stupid sentences, I don't like you. Oh hey, were you Siamanto's boyfriend?