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Komitas Monument and Armenian Genocide Memoiral in Paris, France
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France Finds Site for Armenian Monument
By Ali Ihsan Aydın, Paris
Published: Thursday, February 09, 2006
zaman.com
France has not been able to find an appropriate place for a monument of Ataturk, but recently established the future site of a monument for the alleged Armenian genocide in the city of Lyon.
France declared 2006 as "the year of Armenia" and continues establishing so-called genocide monuments. Following the example of the Paris Municipality, the Lyon Municipality will also build a monument for Armenians in an area noted on UNESCO's World Heritage List; where changes are forbidden. Non-governmental organizations that opposed the monument on the grounds that "the historical pattern will be changed" could not prevent the decision. The monument will be unveiled April 24, the anniversary of the so-called genocide. Turkey's former Ambassador to France Uluc Ozulker made concerted efforts for a monument of Ataturk to be set up but obtained no result.
The project had been discussed for a long time in the Lyon Municipal Assembly. Chairman Denis Broliquier opposed the site and the monument’s budget of 35,000 euros. Members of the Conservative People's Union Movement and the Lyon Union also supported the chairman, but the project was eventually passed with votes from the Socialist Party’s members. Antonin-Poncet Square, where the monument will be established, is one of the most beautiful places of Lyon. The region is under the protection of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO). The French set up a Komitas genocide monument by the Seine River in Paris upon pressure from Armenian organizations.
The site was taken under UNESCO protection in 1991. The statue of Komitas, turned into a show of force by the Armenians in France, is in a square in the vicinity of the famous Champs-Elysee, a place much frequented by tourists. France passed a law recognizing the genocide in 2001 and declared 2006 as the year of Armenia; nearly 500,000 Armenians live in France.
UNESCO's 1972 Convention for the World Cultural and Natural Heritage asks the protection of places on the list and no damage to their natural pattern. But the Convention includes no mechanism to prevent this. UNESCO can object the way it did in the construction of a road near Mount Nemrut in Turkey. UNESCO sources told Zaman that pressure can be put on France if it violates the rules and in the case of a complaint from the public. Sources state the organization will ask for information from France in case the issue comes to the agenda, and say these regions may be included on the List of World Heritage in Danger in the event the World Heritage Committee concurs a change in the natural setting is made.
Istanbul, on the World Heritage list, was considered to be possibly shifted to the List of World Heritage in Danger on the grounds it is not sufficiently protected. UNESCO however started to follow Istanbul and granted Turkey an additional two-year time period.
No room for Ataturk monument
The French, who offered one of their most popular places to the Armenians, could not find room for a statue of the founder of the Turkish Republic, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, in Paris, where statues of many world-wide known figures reside. Turkey's former Ambassador to Paris, Uluc Ozulker, made great efforts at the French offices for the commissioning of the statue but obtained no result. The Turkish Embassy has applied for the 16th region of Paris, where the embassy is situated, for the setting of the statue. However, French officials suggested the wall of the Princess Lamballe Castle for the monument, the Turkish Embassy did not approve this idea and efforts remained at a standstill. More than 450,000 Turks live in France.Attached Files"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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