Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!

2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.

8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Mt. Davidson Cross in San Francisco, California

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Mt. Davidson Cross in San Francisco, California

    TitleMt. Davidson Cross in San Francisco, California
    Type of MemorialCommemorative Plaque, Inscription, Park, Path,
    Sponsor(s)Council of Armenian-American Organizations of Northern California & Armenian-Ame
    Architect/Designer/ArtistDesigned and built by George Kelham.
    PlacementFreestanding sculpture in a public park with a plaque at the foot of a large concrete cross.
    Physical SettingThe sculpture is on top of a mountain/hill, overlooking the city.
    Tourist AmenitiesYes
    Map DesignationMt. Davidson Park
    Physical ConditionWell preserved.
    Inscription"If evil of this magnitude can be ignored,if our own children forgetthen we deserve oblivionand earn the world's scorn." Avedis Aharonian (writer and educator, 1866-1948)Armenian Genocide Commemoration DayApril 24, 1998”Inscription: the Armenian language version of the poem by Avedis Aharonian, which appears on the plaque alongside the English translation by Diana Der-Hovanessian
    LocationMt. Davidson Park
    San Francisco, California United States
    Construction BeganEarly 1930s
    Construction Completed1934
    Dedication Date1934
    Prior Use of SiteMt. Davidson Park.
    History of OwnershipFrom 1934 - 1937: owned by the city of San Francisco
    From 1997 – present: owned by Council of Armenian-American Organizations of Northern California.
    Additional InformationEditorial Broad of Armenian Encyclopedia. The Armenian Question. Yerevan: 1996.

    Kidd, Kristen. "Perpetual Reminders," Armenian International Magazine
    (April 1999), pp. 48-50.

    Welcome to the HyeClub Forum!

  • #2
    Denialst theft and vandalism

    Bronze Plaque Stolen From Mt. Davidson Cross In SF

    Police Send Flier To Recycling Centers To Be On Lookout

    POSTED: 2:31 pm PDT September 28, 2007
    UPDATED: 2:59 pm PDT September 28, 2007

    SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. -- A 160-pound, 3-by-4-foot bronze plaque that sat at the foot of San Francisco's Mt. Davidson Cross has been stolen, San Francisco Police Captain Dennis O'Leary said Friday.
    The giant plaque commemorated the Armenian Genocide perpetrated by the Turkish government from 1915 to 1918.
    It was bolted to a concrete base.

    Police discovered the memorial plaque had been taken on Sept. 23, O'Leary said.
    Noting that the discovery was made on the day when Armenian-Americans were celebrating Armenian Independence Day, O'Leary said they haven't ruled out the possibility of a hate crime.

    SF Police
    "This is a very serious matter," said O'Leary. "We are considering all possibilities."
    O'Leary said investigators were also considering the recycling value of the bronze plaque as a motive for the theft.
    The department sent out a message and photos to all the metal recycling plants in the Bay Area, and an additional flier to police departments throughout California, O'Leary said.
    The 103-foot Mt. Davidson Cross was built and inaugurated by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934.
    In 1997, the people of San Francisco voted to approve the sale of the cross to the Council of Armenian-American Organizations of Northern California to preserve the structure as an historic landmark.
    More than $1.5 million Armenians were killed by the Turkish government from 1915 to 1918.
    The plaque was installed after a decade-long legal and political battle over the constitutionality of the presence of a cross in a public park.
    The case was resolved when the city of San Francisco auctioned the property to private ownership.
    Mt. Davidson Park and the cross have remained open to the public.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”