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Eight Stages of Genocide

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Turanist
    in Mongol genocide in China did Mongols do DENIAL or POLARIZATION? no they did not. I am smart, so smarter than you, so theres.
    What Mongol Genocide of China? When? Give some specifics....are you claiming that Mongols killed nearly all or a great portion of Han Chinese? That they drove Han out of China and obliterated Chinese culture...that they erased all practice of Taoism and Confuncianism in China, destroying temples and stamping out all traces that Han Chinese ever lived there? I am not aware of this history...so please be so kind as to reference scholarly studies to back up yoru claims and in the meanwhile consider the differences between invasion, conquest and perhaps massacre as opposed to "genocide"...(and I would suggest perhaps trying again...)

    IMHO the proof of your intelligence to this point is greatly lacking - but if you are satisified with your level...well good for you I guess...not everyone can be blessed with IQ or lucky enough to achieve a decent education and what is the sense crying about and/or wishing for something that is perhaps beyond your ability to achieve....so perhaps there is a street sweeping job in some backwater Turkish town with your name on it....or they can always use help picking sunflower seeds somewhere...or carrying a rifle our in the hot (Southeastern) Anatolian sun...

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Turanist
      You denying the Mongol Genocide of Chinese. now whos denier of Genocide .
      Well well we have presented hundreds and hundreds of citations to factual studies and accounts of eyewitnesses - what have you presented - an unsubstantiated claim...and you demand that we accept it - with no proof - no nothing? ha! You have refused to answer even the most basic inquires concerning this - so buddy - up yours dipxxxx!

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      • #13
        Historian R. J. Rummel estimated that 30 million people were killed during the reign of the Mongol Empire, and the population of China fell by half in fifty years of Mongol rule.

        Also read this:

        http://www.uglychinese.org/yuan.htm
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        • #14
          Yes - they call those years the terrible 1200s I believe...and your point was?

          BTW - since you have cited Rummel - I suggest you read his figures concerning the number of Armenians killed by the Turks (Abdul Hamid, then CUP and then later Ataturk!) - Can you spell GENOCIDE ashole!

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          • #15
            Rummel has been accuse of make wrong estimate and lies.

            "Another flaw in Rummel's statistical calculations is that he doesn't use error margins."

            But he estimate high CHinese deaths so Genocide is clear even if he gave high estimate.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by Turanist
              Rummel has been accuse of make wrong estimate and lies.
              No doubt - by Turkish deniers of the Armenain Genocide - so what does that proove?

              In fact Rummel is known for being unbiased and fanatical in the collection of ALL relevant information and he provides confidence assessments as well as alternate sources for all of his figures....face it - you lose...

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              • #17
                Did you even read the 8 steps?Turhan?
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #18
                  yes I read. did you read when I say that fact is not agree with so-called 8 stages.

                  did NAtive America genocide have 8 stages?
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                  • #19
                    You are right!
                    Every Genocide is different, except!
                    According to the author every Genocide has this 8 stages .
                    You can disagree if you want but I think he is right only the differences between Genocides is the level of this stages differ.
                    "All truth passes through three stages:
                    First, it is ridiculed;
                    Second, it is violently opposed; and
                    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Gavur
                      You are right!
                      Every Genocide is different, except!
                      According to the author every Genocide has this 8 stages .
                      You can disagree if you want but I think he is right only the differences between Genocides is the level of this stages differ.

                      It is not just the author - but what is accepted by the Association of Genocide Scholars...a group of academics who know - lets just agree - just a bit more about this subject then the raving Turanist...

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