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  • #1

    Blackmail - Nothing More

    http://www.defacto.am/index.php?OP=71312577



    The Committee for English-Turkish Dialogue in Britain has prepared a bill on the recognition “of a genocide committed by the Belgian government in Congo”. The bill has already been inscribed on the agenda.
    “The facts of extermination of the millions of people by the governmental forces of Belgium in 1885 - 1908 in Congo that was Belgium’s colony at that time are reflected” in the bill, PanARMENIAN.Net reports quoting the Anatoly Information Agency. The bill’s authors request that “the Belgian government should apologize for the genocide in Congo before the country’s citizens and the international community”.
    To note, current month the Parliament of Belgium will adopt a law on one year imprisonment of those who do not recognize the Armenian Genocide. The bill Turkish lobby has submitted for the discussion at the British Parliament is a sort of reply to the step undertaken by the Belgian Parliament. The Committee for English-Turkish Dialogue stated the Parliament of Belgium should either deny the adoption of the law or recognize the fact of “the genocide in Congo” and apologize before the international community for killing millions of citizens.
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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  • #2
    In my opinion Armenians in Europe should also support the Turkish initiation in UK. This way they will have the chance to prove that they are against all genocides. I think thats fair enough to show their sincerity on this issue.



    Originally posted by Gavur
    http://www.defacto.am/index.php?OP=71312577


    The Committee for English-Turkish Dialogue in Britain has prepared a bill on the recognition “of a genocide committed by the Belgian government in Congo”. The bill has already been inscribed on the agenda.
    “The facts of extermination of the millions of people by the governmental forces of Belgium in 1885 - 1908 in Congo that was Belgium’s colony at that time are reflected” in the bill, PanARMENIAN.Net reports quoting the Anatoly Information Agency. The bill’s authors request that “the Belgian government should apologize for the genocide in Congo before the country’s citizens and the international community”.
    To note, current month the Parliament of Belgium will adopt a law on one year imprisonment of those who do not recognize the Armenian Genocide. The bill Turkish lobby has submitted for the discussion at the British Parliament is a sort of reply to the step undertaken by the Belgian Parliament. The Committee for English-Turkish Dialogue stated the Parliament of Belgium should either deny the adoption of the law or recognize the fact of “the genocide in Congo” and apologize before the international community for killing millions of citizens.
    Formerly TurQ.

    "Zulum ile abad olanin, ahiride berbad olur"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gavur
      http://www.defacto.am/index.php?OP=71312577


      The Committee for English-Turkish Dialogue in Britain has prepared a bill on the recognition “of a genocide committed by the Belgian government in Congo”. The bill has already been inscribed on the agenda.
      “The facts of extermination of the millions of people by the governmental forces of Belgium in 1885 - 1908 in Congo that was Belgium’s colony at that time are reflected” in the bill, PanARMENIAN.Net reports quoting the Anatoly Information Agency. The bill’s authors request that “the Belgian government should apologize for the genocide in Congo before the country’s citizens and the international community”.
      To note, current month the Parliament of Belgium will adopt a law on one year imprisonment of those who do not recognize the Armenian Genocide. The bill Turkish lobby has submitted for the discussion at the British Parliament is a sort of reply to the step undertaken by the Belgian Parliament. The Committee for English-Turkish Dialogue stated the Parliament of Belgium should either deny the adoption of the law or recognize the fact of “the genocide in Congo” and apologize before the international community for killing millions of citizens.

      Yes we can see the accuracy of your and those TurQ's sincerity very clearly.
      Blackmail is blacknail and BiULLxxxx in plain daysight is BULLxxxx on your part is BULLxxxx. .What part of BULLxxxx you dont understand?
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #4
        Dont get angry Gavur, I am not asking you personally. I was asking the lobbying groups like ANCA or their European counterparts. If what they try to achieve is purely justice they should support this Congo initiation in order to prove their position and by this way they will be able to shame Turkish initiation. Ara Sarafian condemned already the French massacres in history and asked France to recognize it, I am just wondering why dont Armenia and the lobbying groups do not follow that example.


        Originally posted by Gavur
        Yes we can see the accuracy of your and those TurQ's sincerity very clearly.
        Blackmail is blacknail and BiULLxxxx in plain daysight is BULLxxxx on your part is BULLxxxx. .What part of BULLxxxx you dont understand?
        Formerly TurQ.

        "Zulum ile abad olanin, ahiride berbad olur"

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        • #5
          The Committee for English-Turkish Dialogue stated the Parliament of Belgium should either deny the adoption of the law or recognize the fact of “the genocide in Congo” and apologize before the international community for killing millions of citizens.


          Can you say B-L-A-C-K-M-A-I-L?
          "All truth passes through three stages:
          First, it is ridiculed;
          Second, it is violently opposed; and
          Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

          Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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          • #6
            if it is a blackmail thats a blackmail to Belgium, let them deal with it. Turkey is just responding to the political offensive lead by Armenian lobbying groups, what other language or means could Turkey use as a response?

            Thats why I think that this way noone will achieve anything, Armenian groups started this battle in the foreign parliments, and Turkey is just responding. They have no right to get angry, and wouldnt expect Turkey sit with her hands tied.

            I too think that this is not the best way, I personally wouldnt prefer, direct relations and communication is vital in cases like this, but unfortunetly both
            prefer using 3rd parties in this conflict, but actually and in reality 3rd parties use us for their own interest.


            Originally posted by Gavur
            Yes we can see the accuracy of your and those TurQ's sincerity very clearly.
            Blackmail is blacknail and BiULLxxxx in plain daysight is BULLxxxx on your part is BULLxxxx. .What part of BULLxxxx you dont understand?
            Formerly TurQ.

            "Zulum ile abad olanin, ahiride berbad olur"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by turque
              if it is a blackmail thats a blackmail to Belgium, let them deal with it. Turkey is just responding to the political offensive lead by Armenian lobbying groups, what other language or means could Turkey use as a response?

              .
              Same line of false argument is given about the AG!
              What can you do?
              pray.yes pray and ask god for forgiveness and guidance.
              do not idolize the symbols of hate
              dont be a conditional believer
              give to the state ONLY! what belongs to the state ,keep what belongs to God sacred and undefiled by the state,
              Those could be the starters.
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • #8
                What else is new?

                Erdogan requires the end of the insulation of Turkish Cyprus and threat France on the question of the genocide of the Armenians



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                Thursday July 6, 2006
                Turkish the Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan reaffirms in a maintenance published by “the Platform” Wednesday that Turkey will not open its ports and airports with the Cypriot vessels as long as it will not be put “fine at the insulation of the Turkish Republic of Cyprus of North”, not recognized by the international community.

                To break the insulation of the Northern part of the Mediterranean island invaded by Turkey in 1974 would consist, specifies it, “to remove all the barriers put by the Southern part (note: Greek) in all the fields of the economy, the trade, the formation, the culture, tourism, transport and even of the sport”. In addition, “we continue to consider that the United Nations remain the forum of payment of the Cypriot question”, says it.

                As regards the possibility of a French law penalizing the negation of the Armenian genocide by Turkey in 1915 and which would decrease the chances of the French group Areva to build nuclear thermal power stations in Turkey, the chief of the government is satisfied to recall that its country “Turkey will have a very acute need for additional energy in the five to ten years to come” and that “the French are not only in this competition”.

                Questioned on the reality of a deceleration of the rate/rhythm of the reforms in Turkey these two or three last years, Mr. Erdogan ensures qu "' it has neither acceleration there nor deceleration " but that its country is currently in “a technical phase of' screening' (...) which consists in screening existing all the differences between the Community legislation (...) and the national legislation”.

                “We make all our efforts to fill our duties and we force our collaborators to work, to go from before (...) We have a completely devoted team with the cause of this process of integration to the Union European and full with enthusiasm to achieve this task”, it affirms.

                As for the capacity for absorption of new countries by the European Union, the chief of the government of Ankara notes that “it is a new concept which appeared recently” but stresses that “Turkey, the Turkish company, is not a foreign company in Europe”. “Our voyage towards European civilization is not a recent business which would have started there is one, two or five years. This process started with the foundation of the republic with Mustapha Kemal Ataturk.”

                Moreover, adds Mr. Erdogan, “Turkey does not come towards the Union to try to tear off something to him; on the contrary, it comes to bring something to the Union”. “We wish that the Union not become a Christian club. We want that it is the place of an alliance of civilizations. The day when we will make a success of that, world terrorism will receive the hardest blow of its history”, concludes it.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #9
                  Does Turkey require? Turkey should beg!
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gavur
                    Does Turkey require? Turkey should beg!

                    I'm not certain whether Turkey wil get in the EU or not but there strategy is starting to wear on Europes nerves. Basically they are demanding entrance as if its a right and not a privliege. Turkeys position is the the EU should change to meet Turkey's need and not the other way around. Erdogan and Gul have definitely said some comical things in European forums, like bulls in a china shop.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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