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    Stanford Jay Shaw, 1930-2006: An academic who denied the Armenian Genocide

    by Aram Arkun (special to the "Armenian Reporter")

    NEW YORK--At first sight, Stanford Jay Shaw appeared to be an
    ordinary, innocuous, friendly, and garrulous grandfather. At UCLA, he
    typically wore sneakers, and dressed informally.

    He was, however, no ordinary man.

    A prominent Ottoman historian, Shaw was perhaps the most prominent of
    a scholarly school of American deniers of the Armenian Genocide. In
    his best known work, a two-volume survey titled "History of the
    Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey" (Cambridge University Press,
    1976-77), Shaw and his co-author (and wife) Ezel Kural Shaw attempted
    to present the Ottomans and Turks in the most positive light possible,
    at times from an anachronistic Turkish nationalist perspective. In the
    process, alongside many other consequential errors, they minimized the
    size and significance of the Hamidian and Cilician massacres, while
    placing much of the responsibility for these events on Armenians.

    They went on to argue that the Armenians revolted and consequently
    suffered losses during World War I, contrary to the wishes of their
    Young Turk rulers who worked to safeguard them during deportations
    from war zones. Two hundred thousand Armenians were killed due to
    famine, disease, and inadvertent violence during the turmoil of the
    war, which, they emphasized, killed some 10 times as many Muslims.

    This denial of the Armenian Genocide, similar to what many Turkish
    government officials were contemporaneously stating, aroused Armenian
    ire. In addition to a deplorable firebombing of Stanford Shaw's house
    by unknown assailants, damage to Shaw's office, and threats made to
    Shaw and the publishers of the book, many legitimate Armenian
    demonstrations and protests took place at UCLA. As a consequence, Dr.
    Shaw was able to present himself as a persecuted victim of Armenian
    infringements on freedom of speech, and the academics who were going
    to participate in a major public critique of his book changed their
    minds for fear of the charged political atmosphere. Nonetheless, both
    volumes were criticized by scholars in print for many flaws of
    chronology, factuality, and bias on topics that went far beyond
    Armenian matters, and even for issues of plagiarism.

    Dr. Shaw produced a number of students who themselves became
    university professors and published authors on topics of Ottoman
    history. Some of them, such as Heath Lowry or Justin McCarthy, also
    became prominent deniers of the Armenian Genocide. Many graduate
    students in modern Armenian history at UCLA, incidentally, took
    Ottoman history and language courses with Shaw.

    Born in Minnesota on May 5, 1930 as Stanley Shapiro to Jewish immigrants from England and Russia, Shaw is said to have changed his name to its present version
    early in his career, primarily due to anti-Semitism, and, apparently,
    in honor of Stanford University, where he did his undergraduate work
    and received a master's degree in British history. He completed the
    work for another master's degree, this time in Turkish and Islamic
    history, from Princeton University in 1955, and went on to study with
    Bernard Lewis at the University of London, and Hamilton Gibb at
    Oxford. He also studied in Egypt and Istanbul, preparing for his
    Princeton doctoral dissertation titled "The Financial and
    Administrative Organization and Development of Ottoman Egypt,
    1517-1798" (published in 1962 by Princeton University Press). Along
    the way, he learned to read Ottoman Turkish and Arabic.

    Shaw went to Harvard University, where he became an assistant and then
    associate professor of Turkish language and history in the Department
    of Near Eastern Languages and the Department of History from 1958 to
    1968. Here, in addition to his dissertation mentioned above, he
    published four more works on Ottoman Egypt, thus securing his position
    as a specialist on this topic: "Between Old and New: The Ottoman
    Empire under Sultan Selim III" (1971), and the edited translations
    "Ottoman Egypt in the Eighteenth Century" (1962) and "Ottoman Egypt in
    the Age of the French Revolution" (1964), all with Harvard University
    Press; and "The Budget of Ottoman Egypt 1005-1006/1596-1597" (1968)
    with Mouton (The Hague). He also co-edited a work of Sir Hamilton
    Gibb's, "Studies on the Civilization of Islam" (1962).

    Shaw became friends at Harvard with two other young professors, Avedis
    Sanjian, a specialist in Armenian literature, and Speros Vryonis, Jr.,
    a specialist in Byzantine, Seljuk, and early Ottoman histories. Often,
    Shaw would come to dinner at Sanjian's house and play with his young
    son Gregory. When Shaw fell sick, a Turkish graduate student nursed
    him back to health, and he soon married that student, who became Ezel
    Kural Shaw. Gradually, his positions on Armenians and Greeks in the
    Ottoman Empire began to change in a negative fashion.

    Shaw moved to Los Angeles, where he became professor of Turkish
    history at the University of California from 1968 to 1992. Sanjian and
    Vryonis moved to the same university, where Richard Hovannisian became
    professor of Armenian history. It was at UCLA that his conflict with
    the Armenian community at large, as well as with many of his faculty
    friends at UCLA, became intense after the publication of his
    above-mentioned second volume on Ottoman history. In the 1980s, Shaw
    also lobbied the state of California's Department of Education, and
    state legislators, against accepting the Armenian Genocide as a
    planned attempt at annihilation, and was a signatory of various
    petitions and paid political advertisements denying the Genocide.

    Meanwhile, UCLA Armenians continued to protest against Shaw's position
    on the Armenian Genocide. Shaw's presence at UCLA raised questions
    about the limits of academic freedom. Towards the end of his stay at
    UCLA, in 1988, Shaw claimed that the Armenians were persecuting him
    because of their anti-Semitism, not because of his published writings
    on Ottoman-Armenian relations--but this was refuted by statements from
    the UCLA Jewish Student Union, the rabbi who was then director of
    Hillel, and emeritus sociology professor Leo Kuper, a specialist in
    the field of genocide studies. In two books Shaw published several
    years later tendentiously praising Ottoman tolerance towards Jews, he
    portrayed the Armenians and Greeks in the Ottoman Empire and Turkey as
    anti-Semites ("The Jews of the Ottoman Empire and the Turkish
    Republic," 1991; "Turkey and the Holocaust," 1992).

    After retiring in 1992 from UCLA with various benefits, Shaw took
    advantage of the "golden parachute" arrangement offered to many senior
    faculty there to continue teaching courses for another five years. He
    then moved with his wife to Turkey, and became professor of Ottoman
    and Turkish history in Ankara's Bilkent University from 1999 until his
    death. There, he published "Studies in Ottoman and Turkish History:
    Life with the Ottomans" (Istanbul: Isis Press, 2000); a five-volume
    work titled "From Empire to Republic: The Turkish War of National
    Liberation 1918-1923. A Documentary Study" (Ankara: Turkish
    Historical Society, 2000); and "Bir Dusuncenin Gerçeklesmesi: Osmanli
    Tarihi Çalismalarima" (Ankara: Türkiye Bilimler Akademisi Forumu,
    2003), on his work on Ottoman history.

    In his multivolume work on the Turkish war for independence, Shaw
    highlighted the "misdeeds" of Armenians and others, while failing to
    note or extremely minimizing massacres of Armenians committed by
    Ottomans or Muslims in this period.

    Shaw continued periodically to issue statements on the Armenian
    Genocide while living in Turkey. For example, according to a Turkish
    news agency, last year he called Switzerland "uncivilized" for
    beginning a legal procedure against Turkish History Society president
    Yusuf Halaçoglu for statements denying the Armenian Genocide.

    Shaw's biases fit in well with those of his colleagues in Middle
    Eastern studies. Turkey's generally anti-Soviet stand in the Cold War,
    and American economic interests led to American promotion of positive
    views of Turkey, while the Turkish historical establishment, dominated
    by official state views, naturally also appreciated such
    historiographical revisionism, thus allowing Shaw wide access to
    Ottoman archives.

    Stanford Shaw consequently was able to play an influential role in the
    broader field of Middle Eastern studies. He helped found the
    "International Journal of Middle East Studies" for the Middle Eastern
    Studies Association, which is the major organization of scholars
    specializing on this area in the United States. He edited this
    journal, published by Cambridge University Press, from 1970 to 1980.

    Shaw received medals from the president of Turkey, the
    Turkish-American Association, and the Research Center for Islamic
    History, Art, and Culture at the Yildiz Palace, Istanbul, as well as
    honorary degrees from Harvard University and Bogazici University in
    Istanbul. He was made an honorary member of the Turkish Academy of
    Science at the end of 2005. Major foundations provided him with
    research awards and fellowships, including the United States National
    Endowment for the Humanities, the Guggenheim Foundation, the Ford
    Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Social Science Research
    Council, the Fulbright-Hayes Committee, and the Royal Institute of
    International Affairs in London.

    Shaw obviously possessed great energy and considerable ability. It is
    a shame that in the latter half of his career he often pursued
    tendentious goals at the expense of a reasoned historiographical
    methodology. This, along with sloppy writing, damaged the value of his
    own work, harmed the field of Ottoman studies, and caused
    Armenians--and the descendants of the other former Ottoman subject
    nationalities who received short shrift in his works--great upset.

    * * *

    Historian Aram Arkun was a graduate student at UCLA during the 1980s.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    My God show no mercy for this man's deeds...

    {Please note that "The Ford Foundation" was one of Shaw's sponsors. After reading this I've resolved to see to it that I, nor anyone in my family ever purchase a Ford (or any of it's subsidiaries) again; I suggest all Armenians assume a similar position until Ford issues an apology and donates double the amount granted to Shaw towards Armenian Genocide Education in the classroom. Similarly boycott the other organizations listed.}

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