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  • KARS Part I





    The lost motherland

    by Tatul Hakobyan

    Part One
    Kars: The Land of Nairi and Snow

    Musa, a 74-year-old carpet seller, has gotten in the habit of drinking tea
    in Ali Bey's grocery store as morning breaks over the provincial city of
    Kars. Over several cups of tea, he melts sweet pieces of sugar under his
    tongue.

    "Armenians used to live in this town. For hundreds of years Armenians
    and Turks were friends," Musa says. And then: "It was the Russians who
    incited Armenian against Turk."

    "Armenians left for Russia and Armenia," he goes on, Ali Bey nodding
    accord, as Musa reaches for the next piece of sugar to melt.

    At the start of 20th century, the poet Yeghishe Charents pictured Kars
    in his poetic novel, Land of Nairi: "This ancient Nairian city was like
    the other Nairian cities, old or new: small, not too crowded, ruinous
    and dusty. In the modern vernacular such cities are called
    'underdeveloped' provincial cities."

    A hundred years later, at the start of 21st century, the Turkish writer
    Orhan Pamuk visited Kars in his novel, Snow. In his telling, the local
    people explain to Pamuk (who appears in the novel as Karim Alakushoghlu,
    freshly retuned from years spent in Germany, now covering Kars as a
    correspondent for Cumhuriyet investigating local elections and a spate
    of suicides among the town's young women) why Kars is in such a sorry,
    poor state. There are several reasons: the Iron Curtain, the decline of
    commerce, endless Armenian-Turkish quarrels, the indifference of God and
    the state, percolating "nationalism" - if at one time everyone lived as
    a big family, today one person declares he is an Azeri, another that
    he's a Kurd, the third that he's Turkmen.

    On the cover of the Nobel Prize-winning Pamuk's novel of Kars is an
    image of Arakelots, the 10th-century Armenian monastery, frosted with
    snow. Pamuk conveys the city's past - its glory days of Armenian
    activity - and its troubled present: "There was a time when Kars was a
    vivid city, where prosperous Armenians lived by their thousand-year-old
    churches, which are still steady in all their intact charm."

    To get an idea of this "ancient Nairian city" - part of the first
    Armenian republic some 87 years ago - you'd do well to read Charents or
    Pamuk. But that's not sufficient. You have to visit Kars, and seek out
    (unsuccessfully) the tavern of Barrell Nikolay, the coffeehouse of
    Telephone Seto at Loris Melikyan street, which Charents described. You
    have to find the gate of General Alsho on Alexandrian Street; the winery
    of Egor Arzumanov; the row of small, one-story shops on the long, long
    road up to the train station.

    A monument to Kazim Karabekir stands at the station today. In October
    1920 the forces of General Karabekir occupied the cities of Kars and
    Gyumri (Alexandropol), and one year later the treaty of Kars was signed,
    under which the Bolsheviks ceded to Turkey Kars, Sarighamish, Igdir -
    and other fragments of the Armenian motherland.

    In the course of 87 years the Turks have been able to destroy, demolish,
    and otherwise consign to oblivion the traces of the city's Armenian
    presence. But 87 years has not been enough to scrape away every trace of
    the Armenian monuments of Vanand in the Airarat province. The tenacity
    of that Armenian presence leads you to realize that is not enough to say
    that Kars was once Armenian.

    From 928 to 961 Kars was the capital of the Armenian Bagratuni dynasty,
    and when the capital was moved to Ani, it became the separate kingdom of
    Vanand. Over the centuries the province of Vanand passed into the hands
    of Byzantines, Seljuks, Georgians, Mongols, and in 1534 it was joined to
    the Ottoman Empire. After a back-and-forth period of possession between
    1828 and 1877, Kars passed into the control of czarist Russia.

    In 1894 the British traveler Lynch wrote that the Russian garrison - not
    counting the actual population of Kars - consisted of around 4,000
    people, 2,500 of whom were Armenians, 850 Turks, 300 Greeks, and 250
    Russians. Another traveler, Reitlinger, visiting Kars in 1931 wrote that
    the major part of the city was abandoned and left in ruins, with a
    population only in the hundreds. By the 1970s, though, the population of
    Kars reached 80,000; and today it clocks in at about 100,000.

    I have been to Kars on several occasions, the last of which was on my
    way to Aghtamar. This time, the end-of-March blasts of cold wind and
    snowy rain emphasized the dreariness of the city more than ever. Along
    its bumpy, narrow streets one sees horse-drawn carriages, foreign cars,
    heaps of rubbish, modern 10-story housing facilities - and next to them,
    earthworks, all lined up side by side. The smell of horses, the clothing
    and appearance of the locals, and those earth houses that seem to pop up
    everywhere in the province - all this serves to transport a visitor a
    hundred years into the past. It's as if the 20th century - and
    civilization itself - has taken a detour around this city, and all
    Eastern Anatolia, for that matter: the region that, in reality, is
    Western Armenia.

    The Ottoman civilization of the 20th century ripped through Western
    Armenia with all its cruelty, leaving in the heart of modern Armenians a
    disconsolate pain. The magnitude of that grief and bitterness is
    indescribable, and whether you call it the extermination of a whole
    nation, or genocide in an historical homeland, you're merely resorting
    to diplomatic language.

    * The world spins, and Nairi endures

    Back at Ali Bey's grocery story, a taxi driver, Jelal, tells me, "The
    majority of ordinary people in the city want to see the Armenian-Turkish
    border open. But the border will not be opened while there are Russian
    soldiers left in Armenia. With the Russians gone, Turks and Armenians will
    become friends."

    The carpet seller Musa knows that Armenia itself lies not far away. "We
    want the borders to be opened. Armenians will come to Kars to trade."

    Let's for a moment move a little further off, to the Armenian city of
    Gyumri, where 37-year-old Armine agrees with Musa - to an extent. She
    agrees that opening the Armenian-Turkish border would be beneficial for
    commerce. Nevertheless, she is against the border opening. "It is
    possible that the day will come when Armenians and Turks will live side
    by side," she says. "But the inner hatred will remain. I am against
    opening the border, and I think that my contemporaries share my opinion"
    - though she cites no polling data.

    Misha, a 65-year-old Gyumri native, has a more open approach to the
    issue: "The people of the entire world want peace. Opening the
    Armenian-Turkish border would be beneficial for us as well. But why does
    Turkey then build the Kars-Akhalkalaki railway, when we already have a
    Kars-Gyumri line?"

    Ashot Mamajanyan, 57, whose father is from Kars and mother from Mush,
    says: "Our people are exhausted; Armenia is in an all-round blockade.
    Let the border open at least from the side of Turkey, so they can bring
    goods from there, maybe at a little bit higher or lower prices, but so
    that people can make a living. People cannot live like this anymore."

    * Arakelots Church

    The most distinctly Armenian feature still standing in the homeland of
    Ashot Mamajanyan's father, Kars, is the Arakelots church, built more than
    a thousand years ago, in the reign of King Abas Bagratuni. In Land of
    Nairi, Charents wrote of it: "Arakelots is the greatest and dearest
    wonder, adornment, and amazement of this ancient city.... What the soul is
    to the body, what the eyes are to the brain, what the heart is for a man's
    physique - that is what Arakelots is for this Nairian city. What Notre
    Dame is for Parisians, Arakelots is for dwellers of this city."

    Charents goes on: "Northward from the fortress, nestled in the
    descending slope of a hill, like a gray stony bird perches the church of
    Arakelots. The church looks like a bird when you view it from above,
    from the fortress; but viewed from head on it resembles a priest. An old
    stony priest, who seems to have found a seat on the slope of the hill,
    who has remained sitting there for ages, and who will remain sitting
    while the world spins round; and in this endlessly spinning world, the
    land of Nairi remains."

    Charents also wrote: "Above, at the top of the dome, is a cross: a
    plain, iron cross of Nairi." But today the cross is gone, and the dome
    of Arakelots is topped with a Turkish crescent instead. Inside the dome
    are reliefs of the 12 apostles - that's how the church got its name,
    Arakelots, which means "of the Apostles." Several times the church has
    been turned into a mosque, and its last religious service was in 1919.
    After that the church was used for secular purposes only: it has been an
    oil-storage pit, a museum. But today it is "Kumbeth jami," which means a
    domical mosque.

    The fortress of Kars, which dominates the city and the church of
    Arakelots, was considered one of the major fortresses in the province of
    Vanand. Today the fortress is introduced to visitors as a building of
    the Seljuk period. Below the fortress flows the river Kars, which
    divides the city into its old and new parts, while the old bridge brings
    them together. This is "Vardan's bridge," mentioned by Charents.

    In the Soviet era, the fissures of the Cold War passed along the
    Armenian-Turkish border (which at that time was the Soviet-Turkish
    border). But even during those years the Kars-Gyumri railway was
    functioning.

    On April 3, 1993, Turkey issued a government decree closing its border
    with Armenia. To be more precise, it closed its two frontier posts:
    Akyaka-Akhuryan (where the Kars-Gyumri railway passes) and
    Alijan-Margara, next to Igdir and Yerevan. Ankara justified its decision
    to close the borders by saying that Armenian forces occupied the
    Kelbajar region of its sister state, Azerbaijan.

    Already 14 years have passed, with Turkey keeping Armenia in a blockade.
    The majority of Kars' population has migrated to Western Turkey, because
    Kars and the entire region have not grown economically. One of the
    reasons for that may be the closed border.

    And so goes the dreary, lonely city, once a seat of princes, now a
    depopulated ruin, its past glories and future prospects fading
    simultaneously, due to the neglect and perhaps contempt of its present
    rulers. But the past thousand years have witnessed many rulers, and the
    words of Yeghishe Charents still echo faintly: "The world spins round;
    and in this endlessly spinning world, the land of Nairi remains."

    The first of a series.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

  • #2
    Has the author actually been to Kars? Or been there long enough to see anything much of the place? There are some strange inaccuracies in the article, as if a lot of the stuff has been derived from older accounts. Like for example, the last horse-drawn carriges in Kars disapeared in the early 1990s and the reliefs of the 12-apostles are not inside the dome but on the drum on the outside, and the people of Kars do not like Pamuk's novel (because it has nothing to do with the Kars of reality).
    Plenipotentiary meow!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
      Has the author actually been to Kars? Or been there long enough to see anything much of the place? There are some strange inaccuracies in the article, as if a lot of the stuff has been derived from older accounts. Like for example, the last horse-drawn carriges in Kars disapeared in the early 1990s and the reliefs of the 12-apostles are not inside the dome but on the drum on the outside, and the people of Kars do not like Pamuk's novel (because it has nothing to do with the Kars of reality).
      Bell, could you tell us more about your journeys to the region?
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Joseph View Post
        Bell, could you tell us more about your journeys to the region?
        Some day maybe.
        Plenipotentiary meow!

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