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    Text of Formers Secretaries of State letter to Speaker Pelosi

    September 25, 2007

    The Honorable Nancy Pelosi Speaker of the House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515-0508

    Dear Madam Speaker:

    We are writing to express concern that H. Res. 106 could soon be put to a vote. Passage of the resolution would harm our foreign policy objectives to promote reconciliation between Turkey and Armenia. It would also strain our relations with Turkey, and would endanger our national security interests in the region, including the safety of our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    We do not minimize or deny the enormous significance of the horrible tragedy suffered by ethnic Armenian from 1915 to 1923. During our tenures as Secretaries of the State, we each supported Presidential statements recognizing the mass killings and forced exile of Armenians. It has been longstanding U.S. policy to encourage reconciliation between Turkey and Armenia and to urge the government of Turkey to acknowledge the tragedy. We understand the Administration continues to urge the Turkish government to reexamine its history and to encourage both Turkey and Armenia to work towards reconciliation, including normalizing relations and opening the border. There are some hopeful signs already that both parties are engaging each other. We believe that a public statement by the U.S. Congress at this juncture is likely to undermine what has been painstakingly achieved to date.

    We must also recognize the important contributions Turkey is making to U.S. national security, including security and stability in the Middle East and Europe. The United States continues to rely on Turkey for its geo-strategic importance. Turkey is an indispensable partner to our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, helping U.S military with access to Turkish airspace, military bases, and the border crossing with Iraq, Turkey is a linchpin in the transshipment of vital cargo and fuel resources to U.S. troops, coalition partners and Iraqi civilians. Turkish troops serve shoulder-to-shoulder with distinction with U.S. and other NATO allies in the Balkans. Turkey is also a transit hub for non-OPEC oil and gas and remains key to our effort s to help the Euro-Atlantic community bolster its energy security by providing alternative supply sources and routes around Russia and Iran.

    It is our view that passage of this resolution could quickly extend beyond symbolic significance. The popularly elected Turkish Grand National Assembly might react strongly to a House resolution, as it did to a French National Assembly resolution a year ago. The result could endanger our national security interests in the region, including our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and damage efforts to promote reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey. We strongly urge you to prevent the resolution from reaching the house floor.

    Sincerely,


    Madeleine K. Albright
    James A. Baker III
    Warren Christopher
    Lawrence S. Eagleburger
    Alexander M. Haig, Jr
    Henry A. Kissinger
    Colin L. Powell
    George P. Shultz

    Last edited by Siamanto; 10-01-2007, 06:15 PM.
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    Re: H. Res. 106: Text of Formers Secretaries of State letter to Speaker Pelosi

    Statement by Vartan Oskanian, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Armenia on the Letter by Former Secretaries of State to US Speaker of the House Pelosi on House Resolution 106
    September 29, 2007

    It is with dismay that I read the content of the letter signed by former US Secretaries of State urging Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi to derail H. Res. 106.

    It is quite unfortunate that eight experienced diplomats would buy into Turkish manipulation. There is much to disagree with in that letter, especially about the purported dangers of such a resolution. I will only address the insincere claim that such a resolution would “damage efforts to promote reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey.”

    I regret to say that there is no process in place to promote normalization of relations between Armenia and Turkey. Expressing concern about damaging a process that doesn’t exist is disingenuous.

    Armenia has always been ready to have normal relations with its neighbor. Yet, every initiative that would lead toward normalization has been rejected by Turkey. Instead, it continues to place pre-conditions. Turkey makes offers that are simply invitations for open-ended talk, without serious commitment to arriving at minimal, ordinary relations between neighbors. Even their call for a historical commission to discuss painful, historic events is not serious, given their prohibitive penal consequences for open speech and discussion and the adversarial environment Turkey has created by maintaining closed borders with Armenia.
    I have already written to Speaker Pelosi to express our deep concerns and to dismiss as unfounded any implication that a resolution that addresses matters of human rights and genocide could damage anyone’s bilateral relations.


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      Re: H. Res. 106: Text of Formers Secretaries of State letter to Speaker Pelosi

      MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE REPUBLIC OF ARMENIA
      ----------------------------------------------
      PRESS AND INFORMATION DEPARTMENT
      Telephone: +37410. 544041 ext 202
      Fax: +37410. 562543
      Email: [email protected]



      PRESS RELEASE

      Vartan Oskanian's letter to Nansy Pelosy, Speaker of US House of
      Representatives


      Speaker Nancy Pelosi
      US House of Representatives
      Washington DC


      Dear Speaker Pelosi,

      I have refrained from intruding into the process that has brought US HR 106
      to its current stage in the congressional process. I have done so because I
      believe that the content and the intent of the resolution are a matter for
      US Representatives and their constituents. For us, there is nothing there
      that is historically inaccurate, nor that threatens the interests of any
      country. Nevertheless, we have refrained from public expressions.

      The recent letter from eight Secretaries of State addressed to you, Madame
      Speaker, introduces an important change in the nature of the discussion.
      That letter clearly addresses processes that directly affect the Republic of
      Armenia, and therefore, I would take this opportunity to share my concerns
      and thoughts.

      It is with dismay that I read that the letter claims that such a resolution
      would hurt Armenia-Turkey relations. It is quite unfortunate that eight
      experienced diplomats would buy into Turkish manipulation. I regret to say
      that there is no process in place to promote normalization of relations
      between Armenia and Turkey. Expressing concern about damaging a process that
      doesn't exist is at the very least, disingenuous.

      Let me go further. Not only is there no process, I can honestly tell you
      that we have no hope that Turkey will seriously engage with the expectation
      of achieving minimal normal relations as an outcome. My pessimism is based
      on the fact that each time we agree to a meeting, the simple fact of the
      meeting is used by Turkey to derail other processes in the US or around the
      world in other bodies. Yet the meeting itself does not open any new doors,
      does not have a commensurate follow-up, and other than meeting-for-meeting's
      sake, there is no progress. That is frustrating for us, but appears to be
      inconsequential for Turkey's leadership.

      This time, too, we agreed to a meeting between myself and the newly
      appointed Foreign Minister of Turkey, Ali Babacan, in New York next week,
      cognizant of our responsibility to use every opportunity to improve
      relations. Before that meeting has even been held, there are claims that
      somehow that still-unheld meeting is part of a process that might be
      endangered.



      Madame Speaker, Armenia has always been ready for normal Turkey-Armenia
      relations. Yet, every initiative that would lead toward normalization has
      been rejected by Turkey. Instead, it continues to place pre-conditions.
      Turkey makes offers that are simply invitations for open-ended talk, without
      serious commitment to arriving at ordinary relations between neighbors. Even
      their call for a historical commission to discuss painful, historic events
      is not serious, given their prohibitive penal consequences for open speech
      and discussion and the adversarial environment Turkey has created by
      maintaining closed borders with Armenia.

      To view acknowledgement of the truth as an obstacle to political relations
      is cynical. A resolution that addresses matters of human rights and genocide
      cannot damage anyone's bilateral relations - neither yours with Turkey, nor
      ours. I would urge you and your colleagues, as well as the former
      secretaries of state, to acknowledge that the same concern for geostrategic
      interests should move us all to do everything possible to open these
      borders, and not to reward intransigence.

      Thank you.

      Sincerely,

      Vartan Oskanian

      September 27, 2007


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        Re: H. Res. 106: Text of Formers Secretaries of State letter to Speaker Pelosi

        The Turkish dinial brigade is in full swing and has picked off one co-sponser of HR106...

        Los Angeles Area Activists Urged to Take Action In a shocking development, sources on Capitol Hill reported today that Los Angeles area Member of Congress Jane Harman, while publicly serving as a cosponsor of the Armenian Genocide Resolution, is in fact working aggressively behind the scenes, alongside the Turkish government, to defeat this human rights legislation.

        ------

        I sent an email to her (below)...it would be great if you can all do the same

        ------



        Dear Rep Harman,

        I see recently you have caved into Turkish pressure and have unabashedly done a 180 concerning HR106 (the Armenian Genocide Resolution).
        I could continue with this letter and accuse you of being a hippocrate (in light of you background), but this would fall on deaf ears as you have shown your lack of scruples in a most stunning way.
        Basically congresswoman, your denialist actions are unforgivable.
        With that said, I hope the Turks have paid you well for your treachery because given the large amount of Armenian-American voters in CA, you will be out of a job next term.
        I personnaly will work hard to make this happen.

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          Re: H. Res. 106: Text of Formers Secretaries of State letter to Speaker Pelosi

          How about all the Armenians in her district who have mistakenly voted for her??

          Armenian Genocide Resolution -- Urgent Action

          Rep. Jane Harman Secretly Seeking to Kill Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.Res.106)


          Los Angeles Area Activists Urged to Take Action In a shocking development, sources on Capitol Hill reported today that Los Angeles area Member of Congress Jane Harman, while publicly serving as a cosponsor of the Armenian Genocide Resolution, is in fact working aggressively behind the scenes, alongside the Turkish government, to defeat this human rights legislation.

          Please take a moment to contact Rep. Harman’s office today.

          1) By phone – Please Call (202) 225-8220 and ask for Foreign Affairs Staffer Jay Hulings.Sample Phone Script:
          [The phone will be answered by a receptionist. Ask to speak to Jay Hulings, the aide that handles foreign affairs for the Congresswoman. Whether you speak to this assistant or leave a written or voicemail message, please state your name and then share the following points.]

          * I am calling to express my sharp disappointment with the Congresswoman’s betrayal of her commitment to support universal recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

          * Learning of her secretive opposition to the Armenian Genocide Resolution (H.Res.106) is particularly troubling given her longstanding public support for this human rights legislation.

          * I am deeply troubled by her hypocrisy and wanted to tell you that I will be sharing this sad news with my friends and family in her district.
          [Close your call by asking for a written explanation of the Congresswoman’s reversal.]


          2) By email - Go to http://www.house.gov/harman/contact/email.shtml to send Rep. Harman a message - choose your words wisely.

          3) Send an ANCA email http://capwiz.com/anca/issues/alert/...384961&type=cu

          Harman wrote a letter to House Foreign Relations Committee Chair Tom Lantos Wednesday urging him to withdraw it from consideration, and announcing that she will oppose the very resolution she affixed her name to. Excerpt:

          My father was a refugee to the United States from Nazi Germany. I understand the consquences of ethnic and racial persecution, and am comitted to fighting and condemning acts of genocide wherever they occur. That is why I agreed to cosponsor H. Res. 106. I am convinced that a terrible crime was committed against the Armenian people. That crime should be recognized and condemned.However, following a visit to Turkey earlier this year that included meetings with Prime Minister Erdogan, the Armenian Orthodox Patriarch and colleagues of murdered journalist Hrant Dink, I have great concern that this is the wrong time for the Congress to consider this measure.Due to my security focus in the House, I have made 18 trips to the Middle East region over the past 14 years and am persuaded that Turkey plays a critically important role in moderating extremist forces there. Given the nature of the threat, I believe it is imperative to nurture that role -- however valid from the historical perspective, we should avoid taking steps that would embarrass or isolate the Turkish leadership.
          Attached Files

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            Re: H. Res. 106: Text of Formers Secretaries of State letter to Speaker Pelosi

            Originally posted by Siamanto View Post
            Madeleine K. Albright
            James A. Baker III
            Warren Christopher
            Lawrence S. Eagleburger
            Alexander M. Haig, Jr
            Henry A. Kissinger
            Colin L. Powell
            George P. Shultz
            What hypocritic bastards. I already disliked them. Now I have reasons to dislike them more.

            Albright= the woman who lobbied against the protection of the Tutsis during the Rwandan Genocide.

            Kissinger= The scum who has installed dictatorships in every continent during the cold war (including Pinochet)

            Powell= The hypocrite who lied in the UN saying that Iraq has WMD which led to the Iraqi invasion.

            Shultz= The scum who was in the former board of directors of the company which produces the medicine Tamiflu.

            As a matter of fact I am glad that these idiots are lobbying publicly against the genocide bill. LOL now everyone can see what kind of people are against it. They are actually working for us.

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              Re: H. Res. 106: Text of Formers Secretaries of State letter to Speaker Pelosi

              Originally posted by crusader1492 View Post
              Los Angeles Area Activists Urged to Take Action In a shocking development, sources on Capitol Hill reported today that Los Angeles area Member of Congress Jane Harman, while publicly serving as a cosponsor of the Armenian Genocide Resolution, is in fact working aggressively behind the scenes, alongside the Turkish government, to defeat this human rights legislation.

              ARMENIAN YOUTH FEDERATION
              Western United States
              104 North Belmont Street, Suite 206, Glendale, California 91206
              Phone: (818) 507-1933 Fax: (818) 242-3442
              [email protected] www.ayfwest.org

              PRESS RELEASE
              For Immediate Release: October 7, 2007
              Contact: Vache Thomassian ~ Tel: (818) 507-1933

              AYF and ANC Confront Genocide Denier Congresswoman Jane Harman

              Los Angeles, CA - With pride and patriotism, members of the Armenian
              Youth Federation (AYF) confronted Congressman Jane Harman (D-CA-36)
              this weekend for her immoral role in the denial of the Armenian
              Genocide. It was discovered this week that the Congresswoman, while
              publicly endorsing H. Res. 106 (the Armenian Genocide Resolution), had
              secretly authored a letter on October 3, 2007 urging the Chairman of
              the House Foreign Affairs Committee to kill that very same bill.

              "Jane Harman ought to be ashamed," commented Vache Thomassian, a
              member of the AYF Central Executive. "She ought to be ashamed for her
              rank hypocrisy. She ought to be ashamed for her double standard on
              human rights. And she ought to be ashamed that as a daughter of a man
              who came to America as a refugee from Nazi Germany, she is now willing
              to turn a blind eye to genocide for the sake of political
              expediency. Shame on Jane Harman," Thomassian added.

              The AYF members, joined by ANC supporters, challenged Harman's
              position at a public event held in Lakewood, California on Saturday,
              October 6, 2007. Nearly a 100 AYF members were on hand, the Armenian
              Americans spoke truth to power by directly confronting the
              Congresswoman for her hypocrisy. Specifically, the AYF members shared
              that her deceitful actions are profoundly immoral and fall far beneath
              even the most basic ethical standards that her constituents in
              California's 36th Congressional District have a right to expect. With
              chants of "Hypocrite, Liar, Genocide Denier," the AYF members
              highlighted Harman's ethically challenged effort to defeat the
              Armenian Genocide resolution.

              Over 1,000 human rights supporters from across Los Angeles County have
              contacted Harman's offices in California and Washington, D.C. to
              criticize her decision to oppose the Armenian Genocide Resolution. Her
              constituents have called Harman to express their sharp disappointment
              with her betrayal to support universal recognition of the Armenian
              Genocide. Having learned of her secretive opposition to the Armenian
              Genocide Resolution, many voters in her Congressional District
              question Harman's dedication to the truth. Constituents found the
              Congresswoman's actions particularly troubling given her longstanding
              public support for this human rights legislation.

              Founded in 1933, the Armenian Youth Federation (AYF) has grown to
              become the largest and most influential Armenian American youth
              organization; with chapters throughout the United States and
              affiliated organizations around the world. Inspired by our past and
              motivated by the needs of the future, the AYF actively strives to
              advance the social, political, educational and cultural awareness of
              all Armenian youth.



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