Foreign affairs commitee - swing in votes?

[Merv]

So it turns out that the xxxish component of the US House Committee on Foreign Affairs swung the votes for the resolution. Are there any theories on why? I realize that the direct cause is the ADL or some other lobby told them to do so, probably on orders from Olmert/Peres, who got orders from incestuous statutory rapist Abdullah Gul and either obeyed or disobeyed them.

So what is behind this swing in votes?

1.) Did Turkey order them to do so, so that they would have an excuse to ignore the US and invade Iraq to kill Kurds? Turkey knows it won't pass because Bush will veto it and it won't have a 2/3 supermajority. It will not go down in the statutes, and Turkey definitely knows this.

2.) Or did Turkey order them to fight against it, but Olmert/Peres & co. have decided that at this point Turkey is expendable and that the Kurds can be used to build up an anti-Iranian, anti-Russian, anti-Syrian "ally" (translation: stooge)?

[Grandchild]

Re: Foreign affairs commitee - swing in votes?

First off you have the steps to a House Resolution incorrectly. It cannot be vetoed by the president and I don't think it need 2/3 majority. A resolution is nothing like a bill or a statute in that nothing comes of it. It is simply a statement as to the way the House "sees" things.

Secondly do you have a link to this supposed "swing in votes". Perhaps if I can read it I will have a better idea as to what has gone wrong. Is it that it won't get out of committee to the full House for a vote?

[Merv]

Re: Foreign affairs commitee - swing in votes?

First off you have the steps to a House Resolution incorrectly. It cannot be vetoed by the president and I don't think it need 2/3 majority. A resolution is nothing like a bill or a statute in that nothing comes of it. It is simply a statement as to the way the House "sees" things.

Secondly do you have a link to this supposed "swing in votes". Perhaps if I can read it I will have a better idea as to what has gone wrong. Is it that it won't get out of committee to the full House for a vote?

Oh....that clarifies everything. I thought resolutions were just like bills. In which case there is a chance of success. The "swing in votes" refers to the xxxish lobby's vociferous attacks on recognizing the Armenian genocide in the past, and the current resolution being approved by 7 of the 8 xxxish members of the committee - a break with "tradition." The committee approved it and it definitely will go to Congress.

I can only conclude that Lantos (who is conscience-less) and Co. have done this on clandestine orders of Peres/Olmert, in which case it appears that they want Turkey to get mad and invade Iraq, which is what Turkey wants also. Perhaps Turkey has been "assured" that the lobby will "take care of things" when it comes to the actual Congressional vote, but one can never be sure. At the same time, this first "insult" by the committee can be usefully abused as an excuse for Turkish invasion.

[Grandchild]

Re: Foreign affairs commitee - swing in votes?

Well Turkey is certainly already making uproar about the possibility of a full vote. I think it is just an excuse to go after the PKK which it turns out may be being armed by . . . Blackwater. In case you have not heard, Blackwater is the private US Security firm that is in hot water for carelessly and ruthlessly opening fire on unarmed Iraqis.