Can we say Germans were guilty of genocide too?

[arshaluys]

As u know,there was an alliance between ottoman empire and german state before and during the first world war.From this point of view can we claim that german adminstration helped ottoman empire for the genocide and war to the christian minitories?

[Anoush]

Re: Can we say Germans were guilty of genocide too?

As u know,there was an alliance between ottoman empire and german state before and during the first world war.From this point of view can we claim that german adminstration helped ottoman empire for the genocide and war to the christian minitories?

Yes of course arshaluys. Read Dadrian's book and I have seen pictures and literature that proves this statement. German generals had a good part in giving directions to the Ottoman turks how to go about massacring all the Christian minorities in Turkey prior to the 1915 Armenian Genocide.

[Azad]

Re: Can we say Germans were guilty of genocide too?

can we claim that german adminstration helped ottoman empire for the genocide and war to the christian minitories?

Wasn't there a website with extensive Genocide research by a German couple that dedicated their lives in bring the German involvement details? Does anyone have that German couple's website?

[freakyfreaky]

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its out there, look and you will find it.

http://www.armenocide.de/armenocide/armgende.nsf/WebStart_En?OpenFrameset

[arshaluys]

Re: Can we say Germans were guilty of genocide too?

Yes of course arshaluys. Read Dadrian's book and I have seen pictures and literature that proves this statement. German generals had a good part in giving directions to the Ottoman turks how to go about massacring all the Christian minorities in Turkey prior to the 1915 Armenian Genocide.

Thank you Anoush.I will read Dadrian's book soon.

[Anoush]

Re: Can we say Germans were guilty of genocide too?

Thank you Anoush.I will read Dadrian's book soon.

You are welcomed.

[Crimson Glow]

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You know, I've been meaning to start a thread about this many times, but kept forgetting. I've always wondered why we haven't gone after Germany harder for their part in all this.

Sure you can, but not to the extent that the Ottomans were. Besides, Germany recognizes the Armenian Genocide and officially apologized for their involvement in the Genocide.

They did? When and where was this? I've never seen them listed anywhere as one of the countries that recognizes the genocide. If they ever did, that would pretty much finish off Turkey's case, as they were co-conspirators. In other words, an admission of guilt by Germany would also basically mean they're ratting out the Turks that they helped/led in this crime.

How can you say the Germans aren't as guilty as the Ottomans, Tenacious? Not only did they KNOW a genocide was going on, but they were the ones that helped lead and organize/plan it! And all so that the Ottomans would build a continuation of the "Silk Road" straight up to Germany. I'd say that makes them just as bad as the Ottomans.

[Hellektor]

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I've always wondered why we haven't gone after Germany harder for their part in all this.

For one thing, we Armenians are pro-German. We are kind of similar as far as aiming for perfection and we also admire their discipline and great culture.

Plus, it's due to our delusion that the so-called Christian countries should for some unknown reason support us like the Muslim peoples back each other, regardless. Take Pakistan's pro-"Azeri" and anti-Armenian stance despite the justice of the Artsakh people's cause.

On the other hand, our delusion that we consider ourselves Europeans, more precisely indo-Europeans has also influenced our pro-European bias.

Oh, the German involvement: an Iranian Armenian Artem Ohandjanian who lives in Austria has compiled a monumental 12 volume work, exclusively digging the Austro-Hungarian archives which show beyond doubt how much the Germans were accomplices in the AG and how much the Austro-Hungarian Empire stood by and did nothing either.

[o0tinerz0o]

Re: Can we say Germans were guilty of genocide too?

I doubt not the germans had responsibility in the matter, but Id rather concentrate on the turks, after all its the turks that are holding the land of our fathers, not the Germans, and after all my fellow Armenians, isnt our homeland what we want back the most?

[ara87]

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Found this on google videos, "Germany and the Secret Genocide."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6575927557266281256&ei=Z9exSKV0iuD7AbHw6KEN&q=germany+and+the+secret+genocide