Europe delivers emphatic 'NON!' to Turkey

[NikosSampson]

French voters yesterday showed that they were not prepared to accept the mass murdering country of Turkey into the European Union and they would do whatever it took, to show their leaders that the whole of continental Europe was united against Turkish Membership. The single main reason for The French loss of the Referendum Vote on The European Constitution was considered by most to be the prospect of Turkish Membership.

France has now delivered the message. "NO!" No to Turkish Denial, No to Turkish Membership, No to Turkish lies. Most opinion polls show that in the rest of Europe other countries are even more extremely opposed to Turkish Membership than France is. In Austria a staggering 83% of people told a Gallup Poll that they did not support Turkish Membership, in Germany it was 71%, in Belgium it was 65%, in Spain it was 78%. The message on Sunday was clear, 'We are prepared to act upon our desire not to see Turkey in the EU'.

[Zane]

Despite having recognized the Genocide way back, I think we should add the European Union to the list of deniers. Just look at this recent report

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/activities/committees/studies/download.do?file=18288

Now they want Armenia and Turkey to discuss and debate the "issue" or "question." This is just latest in the string of concessions made to Turkey, including taking recognition off the list of prerequisits for admission. Canada is also heading in this direction, essentially saying, "yeah we recognize the genocide, but the two sides should have a nice long chat anyway." I hate to say it, but Turkey really scores a coup de gras with their kindly offer to investigate the genocide, despite the fact that it is already academically setteled, because it gives every other country a easy way to weasel out of their moral obligation to recognize the genocide as such.

[Joseph]

Despite having recognized the Genocide way back, I think we should add the European Union to the list of deniers. Just look at this recent report

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/activities/committees/studies/download.do?file=18288

Now they want Armenia and Turkey to discuss and debate the "issue" or "question." This is just latest in the string of concessions made to Turkey, including taking recognition off the list of prerequisites for admission. Canada is also heading in this direction, essentially saying, "yeah we recognize the genocide, but the two sides should have a nice long chat anyway." I hate to say it, but Turkey really scores a coup de gras with their kindly offer to investigate the genocide, despite the fact that it is already academically setteled, because it gives every other country a easy way to weasel out of their moral obligation to recognize the genocide as such.

Real-politic; Everyone sees dollar signs. It's all about coddling the Turks and Turkey's strategic location and nothing more. Still, I doubt Turkey will get into the EU but the whole process has been a joke.

[Joseph]

TURKS CAN ONLY BLAME THEMSELVES FOR NOT JOINING THE EUROPEAN UNION
By Harut Sassounian

AZG Armenian Daily
17/04/2008

International

A major controversy has been brewing for some time throughout Europe
about the wisdom of admitting Turkey to the European Union.

Most Europeans oppose Turkey's membership either out of prejudice
or because of irreconcilable legal, political, economic and cultural
differences.

Turkish leaders, rather than exerting the necessary effort to bring
their country into compliance with EU requirements, have taken the easy
way out by criticizing Europe for being anti-Turkish and anti-Muslim.

In order to pressure the EU to accept Turkey as is, Turkish leaders
have adopted the clever tactic of putting the sole blame on the
Europeans rather than on their own inability and unwillingness to
make the necessary changes.

Turks have repeatedly claimed that Europeans have prevented them from
joining the EU ever since 1963, when their country first became an
associate member of the European Economic Community (the predecessor
to the EU). What the Turks don't say is that the lengthy delay has
been due to their lack of compliance with EU requirements, not to
mention the overthrow of the elected government by the military on
three occasions.

The Turks can only blame themselves for their inability to join the
EU during all those years.

There are two basic reasons for Turks' lack of interest to comply with
EU requirements: First, almost half the Turkish public is opposed to
joining the EU.

Turkey is a nation that is split into many diametrically opposed
political, religious and ethnic factions. There is even a pending case
in the Constitutional Court to outlaw the ruling political party and
remove the President and Prime Minister from office.

As a result, Prime Minister Rejeb Tayyip Erdogan has a serious
dilemma. He wants Turkey to join the EU in order to safeguard his
party's rule from radical nationalists and military hardliners, without
making too many concessions to the Europeans, lest he be accused of
catering to the enemies of the Turkish way of life. Consequently,
he has been doing his best to appear as if he is making the required
changes in Turkish laws without actually doing so. A good example
of this political acrobatics is Article 301 of the penal code
which criminalizes "insulting Turkishness" and stifles freedom of
speech. This article is frequently used by nationalist prosecutors
to silence all those who make any reference to the Armenian Genocide.

For the past 3 years, Erdogan has been continuously promising to
change this draconian law at the insistence of EU officials. With
each promise, Turkey gets accolades from gullible Europeans. Last
week, once again, Erdogan announced that the Turkish Parliament will
"soon" amend Article 301 which would in effect keep this controversial
article in the penal code, while convincing the Europeans that Turkey
is bringing its laws up to EU standards.

In the April 10th issue of the Turkish newspaper, "Today's Zaman,"
E. Baris Altintas wrote that even if Article 301 is completely removed,
the penal code includes many other articles that would continue to
stifle free speech. The author mentioned the following examples of
other repressive laws:

-- Article 115 bans declaring one's religious, social, political and
philosophical beliefs;

-- Article 125: committing crimes against dignity;

-- Article 216: inciting people to hatred and hostility;

-- Article 217: provoking people to disobey the law;

-- Article 220: propagating an outlawed organization;

-- Article 222: banning the use of Kurdish letters q, x, and w;

-- Article 263: education in violation of the law;

-- Article 288: making public statements about an ongoing court case;

-- Article 299: uttering insults against the President;

-- Article 300: denigrating symbols of the sovereignty of the state;

-- Article 304: provoking foreign officials to declare war against
Turkey or insult it;

-- Article 305: engaging in deeds against fundamental national
benefits;

-- Article 309: attempting to overthrow the regime of the Turkish
Republic;

-- Article 311: attempting to overthrow by violence the Turkish
Parliament;

-- Article 318: discouraging the public from serving in the army;

-- Article 323: printing false news stories; and

-- Article 341: denigrating the flag of a foreign country.

Erdal Dogan, a lawyer for Hrant Dink, the Armenian journalist who was
assassinated in Istanbul a year ago, was quoted by "Today's Zaman" as
stating that even if all of these problematic articles were removed,
nothing much would change in the Turkish judiciary. Certainly,
nothing would change in Turkish society.

If Article 301 is any indication - which is still not amended after
3 years -- it would take more than 50 years for Turkey just to amend
the above 17 articles.

Of course, joining the EU would take even longer!

The fact is that Turkey has not been able to join and probably won't be
able to join the EU in the foreseeable future, not because of European
opposition, but due to Turkey's "deep state," radical nationalists and
millions of its citizens who have no interest in adopting democratic
European values!