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“Extreme eyes, Armenians”, Antoine Agoudjian
Sunday June 18, 2006, Stéphane/armenews
An exposure including/understanding forty stereotypes on the topic of the Armenian memory, which was held in Valentigney (close to Montbeliard), had to close its doors because of tensions with members of the local Turkish community, one learned Saturday near the organizers.
The exposure of photographs was held under a capital at the time of a folk festival the 17è festival of folk dance and of craft industry of art entitled “Rates/rhythms and Colors” and lay within the scope of the year of Arménie.
In the course of the day, ten people of the local Turkish community came to require that two photographs be withdrawn from the exposure to the reason which they made reference to the “Armenian genocide perpetrated by Turkish”.
The photographer Antoine Agoudjian having refused that these two stereotypes are withdrawn, the organizers of the festival closed the access to the capital, in agreement with the town hall.
Mr. Agoudjian denounced “a ubuesque situation” and “a serious attack with the freedom of expression while at the same time France recognized officially the Armenian genocide”. He specified that he refused that his photographs are exposed all the week in the MJC of Valentigney, as that was envisaged. The photographs are extracted from a book that Antoine Agoudjian published at Southern Actes.
Program
Antoine Agoudjian was born into 61 in Saint-Maur in France. His/her parents are textile workmen. Its first approach towards its roots will be done by the Armenian dance, as of the five years age. Master dancer, it discovers the photograph at 26 years, in the United States, while working in a laboratory to treat to his round trip ticket for France.
Following the earthquake in Arménie, it leaves for one year with an ONG as logistician and interprets, and takes its first images. It publishes “fire under the ice” on this experiment. In 92, it obtains its diploma for the occupation of photographer and works during ten years in a professional laboratory where it specializes under development of films and black and white silver pulling. This year there, it meets Robert Doisneau who helps it to format its second book “Portrait of the restaurants of the heart”. It integrates the Rapho agency.
Since 97, it follows the round of the Dumbs. It published a work on Istanbul and another on the Armenians of the Caucasus.
In 89, the photographer went on the spot of the family memory, in the search of his lost country. He followed the ways of deportation of the survivors to the Middle-East: Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Arménie, etc It is turned over on the spot of the massacres, testifies this stereotype collected street Baron in Alep, centers to it strategic Turkish command or this almost stolen image of the bones in a mass grave. Another sight, towards Van, where the population was dense, there remains only of the birds whirling with the top of a deserted monastery; further, a solitary shepherd keeps his sheep. The landscapes remain deeply dark, but the life is present in the feverish and nostalgic glances.
Has just appeared: Photo Pocket (Southern Acts) with the photographs of Antoine Agoudjian, 144 pages.
"All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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“Think Logical”: Early introduction leads to top chess world for Asryan and mates.
By Arpi Harutyunyan
ArmeniaNow reporter
The June 4 phone call to the Asryan home brought good news to all of Armenia.
Karen Asryan became champion “logical thinker”
The words “We won!” delivered by national team chess player Karen Asryan are still ringing not only in his household but by proud countrymen.
Beating out 147 other teams, the Armenians brought home the World Championship of Chess by collecting 36 points during the competition in Turin, Italy.
Levon Aronyan, Karen Asryan, Gabriel Sargsyan, Vladimir Hakobyan, Smbat Lputyan, Artashes Minasyan (under coach Tigran Nalbandyan and captain Arshak Petrosyan) left in the shadow even the Russian team, whose 5 players are in the top ten of the best chess players in the world.
Asryan, 26, like his teammates, learned chess at home, but his father never expected a world champion son.
“My father didn’t aim to have me become a chess player, he just wanted his sons to learn to think logically,” says Asryan. “He would teach my brother who is older by three years, and I would watch them and learn.”
And he learned well. At age 9 Asryan became USSR champion for children under 10; and at 13 was champion of Armenia for age 18 and under.
“Before I was 17 I fully devoted myself to chess, training 7-8 hours per day,” Asryan says. “This is a sport that needs constant training; you can play brilliantly for several hours and fail the whole game by a careless error.”
In 1997 he finished school with a gold medal and entered the Chess Department at the Yerevan State Institute for physical Culture.
The champion, though, does not consider himself a chess fanatic. He says there are things more important, mainly family.
“I don’t think I have sacrificed some things for the sake of chess. This is my profession, that should take from me not my whole life, but as much time as is allotted to the profession,” says Asryan.
In the 20 years of his life devoted to chess Asryan has played in several hundred tournaments. He says the win in Turin (for which each player was paid about $17,500), shows the unselfishness of the Armenian team.
“Armenians, unlike other teams, trained little, but they were more talented and managed to lead a true team play. They don’t think of personal self to be noticed, they always jointly share the chess secrets among each other. This tournament was noticed especially in this regard,” says Asryan.
And after winning, Asryan wore the Armenian flag around his shoulders, leading his team’s victory celebration.
“We were proud: no individual victory can be compared to the winning of the title of Olympic champion,” says Asryan.
And they received a hero’s welcome, greeted late in the evening by dignitaries at Zvartnots Airport, and by cheering fans outside the Opera House.
“We expected to be met well, but not of such degree,” Asryan says.
Asryan and his teammates say they have received lucrative offers to leave Armenia and play for other countries. But:
“We just don’t have the right to leave. It would be, mildly said, unjust to leave after all those things that were done for us,” Asryan says.
After a few days rest, Asryan is now preparing for a tournament in China. He is one of five foreigners invited to compete, beginning July 1."All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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Originally posted by TursianHave you guys heard of Kim Kardashian?? She is the daughter of Robert Kardashian of the O.J. Simpson trial attorney her father is an Armenian Iranian and her mother is American and she's supposedly dating Nick Lachey. She's very hot.
http://www.teenpeople.com/teenpeople...01904,00.shtmlGeneral Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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Vic Darchinyan
ARMEANIAN STREAK
Sydney MX (Australia)
June 20, 2006 Tuesday
SYD Edition
World champion boxer Vic Darchinyan struggles for recognition in his
own country, but he is quickly gaining a following overseas
Vic Darchinyan has compiled one of the great streaks in Australian
boxing, but he arrived home from his latest conquest two weeks ago
to little fanfare in his adopted nation.
Armenian-born Darchinyan extended his perfect sequence of knockouts in
world title fights to five with his eighthround stoppage of previously
unbeaten Mexican Luis Maldonado in Las Vegas.
The exciting southpaw's "warrior" style earned him plenty of fans in
the US and delighted promoters.
But when the IBF and IBO champion arrived home at Sydney airport
there were only a couple of reporters and no television cameras or
fans to meet him.
The scene was in contrast to the throngs that met former junior
welterweight world champion Kostya Tszyu on his early morning returns
from many overseas conquests.
"Maybe it's because there's not too much advertising or too much
media involved," Darchinyan said.
"But my promoters and (US pay TV network) Showtime told me 'your style
is very exciting, everyone wants you, they'd like to watch you again'."
Darchinyan's fight was promoted to main event status after the
cancellation of the lightweight world title bout between Diego Corrales
and Jose Luis Castillo.
"The Mexicans didn't return their tickets after the Corrales-Castillo
fight was cancelled - they knew I was fighting a Mexican," he said.
"They kept supporting a Mexican and after they saw my style they
started supporting me and said 'you're a great fighter, we like your
style, you are a warrior'.
"I think everything depends on advertising.
"I've already (lived) nearly six years in Australia and I haven't
lost and I've fought in many Jeff Fenech fight nights, but I can still
see there are still not big crowds supporting me because maybe people
don't know about me."
Fenech, Darchinyan's trainer, said seeing his charge come home to so
little recognition was painful.
"It's terrible, it's just typical of Australia," Fenech said.
"What (else) can the guy do? He's beaten everybody, he's undefeated,
he's challenged everybody he's a great kid."
Darchinyan was boosted by the strong support of fight fans of Armenian
extraction in Las Vegas.
And he anticipated even greater backing from the Armenian community in
the US for his next bout against WBO champion Omar Narvaez in either
August or September.
"I think maybe 1500 Armenians came from Los Angeles, it was good,
because we didn't have time for much advertising in Los Angeles,"
said Darchinyan, who spent a few days sparring there before heading
to Las Vegas.
"Next time it will be 10,000 to 15,000. Here (in Australia) they have
30,000 to 40,000 Armenians; in America, one and a half million.
"Armenians here and the Australian community are starting to like me
and support me."
Darchinyan had words of warning for his next opponent, likely knock-out
candidate No.6: he said he was continuing to improve because he was
getting stronger and punching harder.General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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Originally posted by TursianHave you guys heard of Kim Kardashian?? She is the daughter of Robert Kardashian of the O.J. Simpson trial attorney her father is an Armenian Iranian and her mother is American and she's supposedly dating Nick Lachey. She's very hot.
http://www.teenpeople.com/teenpeople...01904,00.shtml
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Originally posted by HayerMiacekwhats so patriotic about her lol, is it because she is dating Nick Lachey?
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Originally posted by HovikYeah she doesn't seem too patriotic to me, just another assimilated Armenian pretending to be barbie - caught up in the capitalist gerbil wheel...General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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Armenians in Wisconsin
Armenians celebrate culture, tradition
By Janine Anderson
CALEDONIA - Since 1938, Racine's Armenian community has gathered together for the St. Hagop Armenian Apostolic Church's annual picnic to celebrate the culture they have in common.
Early Sunday morning, church members came to Johnson Park to dig a pit and build a fire, over which they cooked beef stew and bulgar wheat. The "Madagh," or offering, can be traced back to Abraham. Abraham was prepared to sacrifice his son to God, but God told him to spare the boy and sacrifice a ram instead. The Madagh is an expression of love, faith and gratitude which St. Hagop's shares with its members and guests. Once the stew and bulgar is cooked, families bring smaller pots and take the stew back to their eating area.
"That's how the picnic starts," said Zohrab Kaligian, chairman of the picnic committee. "People start to come with their pots and pans to get their stew."
When people came Sunday, there were families from far-flung places like Boston, Washington and California. The annual picnic is a time when people who have left Racine often come back to be a part of the community again.
Here they can enjoy sarma (stuffed grape leaves), shishkabob, Armenian pastries, and penelee (deep-fried cheese puffs). Every Armenian community has a pastry stuffed with cheese, Kaligian said, but the penelee are hard to find unless you are in Racine.
Women from the church spent Father's Day making more than 1,600 penelee. Younger men and women took their turns over the deep fryers Sunday, cooking for the people who lined up to place orders.
"We're doing our best to pass that on," Kaligian said. "The little old ladies aren't going to be around forever. We've got to pass it on, generation to generation."
The band that provided music from 2 to 6 p.m. is also committed to passing on the Armenian folk music tradition. Members of The Mid-East Beat have been playing together since the early 1980s. Vahan Kamalian plays the oud, a fretless stringed instrument with a rounded back. He started playing when he was 15; the instruments were not available in music stores, and his grandmother helped find one overseas. He and the other members of the group taught themselves to play, listening to old records and playing together.
"We just love the music and want to keep the tradition going of the music and pass it on to future generations," Kamalian said. "It's soulful, melodic and driven, perfect for the kinds of dancing they do."
The Archbishop Oshagan Choloyan, prelate of the Armenian Apostolic Church of America, oversees Armenian churches in the eastern half of the United States. He was in Racine Sunday for his eighth St. Hagop celebration. He said the Armenian church and culture are tied together incredibly closely.
"The Armenian church officially is the oldest (national) church in the world," he said. "We embraced Christianity in 301. It's like a mother for our nation. Through the church the literature, music, art, architectures, all these cultures were kept through church. The church and nation can't separate."
Armenians immigrated to the United States in the first quarter of the 20th century, Choloyan said, after Ottoman Turks killed about 1.5 million of them and drove many others into the Syrian desert.
"Wherever we established, we immediately built a church," Choloyan said. "They kept the church alive and the church kept them alive."
Choloyan loves to come to Racine's picnic, where the sense of community runs deep. He said if he had been given a choice as a young man, where he would be a priest, he would have picked Racine, and now, if he were given a choice on where to retire, his answer would be the same.
"I love these people," he said. "You find the true American spirit here in the countryside. It's simple, lovely, caring. You see the closeness. This is the America I know."General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”
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