Epitome of Denial

[Hovik]

short-bus stop...

you are forgetting that Erevan had Muslim majority population. Armenia had lots of Muslims but today I cannot see that there are Muslims in Armenia.

so if Erivan had Muslim majority 100 years ago then why is there little or no evidence to show this? I am thinking what could have happened to all the evidence. i think you know the answer .

why you not mention Armenia weightlifting coach he is Azeri but Armenia is trying to hide him. Armenia dont like to mention him and he does not go to international tournaments is it because of his Azeri origins???

I am sorry Turanist, but you fail again.

I can still see Muslims walking in the streets when I am in Yerevan, and see the Mosque downtown. But where is the PHOTO or VIDEO or physical evidence that cultural heritage has been destroyed. Why don't you mention the wrestling coaches name? Are you trying to hide his identity? The wrestling coach isn't a piece of Azeri cultural hertiage, and cannot be compared with a 1000 year old cemetary of Khachqars being smashed to bits...

BTW, How many Turks have been in Yerevan for the 2,750 years of the cities existence as an Armenian City? (And if what most Turks say about the living conditions in Yerevan is true, I probably wouldn't want to live there either - maybe that's why they aren't there now...) P.S. How many Armenians were in Baku and Sumgait before the Pogroms? How many are there now?

Turanist, YOU ARE TAKING THIS TOPIC IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
This is about cultural heritage - do you have EVIDENCE of Armenian destruction of Turkish or "Azeri" cultural heritage in Armenia? OR do you have anything meaningful to contribute to why you think "Azeris" fail to address the 15 minute long video of Azeris destroying the cemetery?

If not, go somewhere esle...

[Turanist]

you think you are funny .
This website even says it. http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.ph...ebook-_Yerevan

"Yerevan remained a garrison town of 12,500 inhabitants, more than half Muslim, a place of low, flat-roofed houses and lush walled gardens, until the 20th century."

are you still going to deny this now? and call me liar?

PS. you should read what they say about mosques burning down. It is biggest joke. and they calling Islam "desire to minimize the practice of an unpopular religion"!!!! and you are thinking why Armenian graveyard is destroyed?

You dont even know your weightlifting coach? http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?...ntentry&eid=21

[Turanist]

Hovik you can see that Reincarnated Am just posted a article about the Armenian destruction of Muslim holy sites. also on the link I provided you can see that how the most of the mosques in Erevan was destroyed. if you want I can spell Erevan like Yerevan because you like it if you spell Azeri not like "Azeri"?

[Reincarnated Am]

Grateful to a Nation: Philosophy and sport outweigh nationality for Azeri coach

Grateful to a Nation: Philosophy and sport outweigh nationality for Azeri coach

The blue eyes of Felix Aliyev become bluer when they are filled with tears.

Aliyev, 66, is an Azeri by nationality, but he lives and works in Echmiadzin and is a weightlifting trainer at one of Armenia’s most successful sport schools. Tears roll down his cheeks as he speaks about the years of Armenian-Azeri confrontation.

“I am sorry,” he says in a subdued voice and leaves the room.

Felix’s wife, Julietta Yenokyan, 56, goes on saying: “Children would wait until the training classes finished at the weightlifting school. Then they safely brought Felix home at the end of the day.”

Felix has been working in the village of Geghakert, which is five kilometers away from Echmiadzin, for 34 years. He has 180 sportsmen, age 13-24 in his charge.

Felix comes back to the room and lays magazines, albums, fragments of newspapers, numerous books on the table. His wife adds: “Felix has all the good things.” And she shows diplomas and orders of different years.

“Had my pupils turned their backs on me I would have left. But they supported me strongly,” he says.

Felix reads the records of his private diary. He has mottos to which he has adhered in his life. “A person, despite his nationality, should act for the sake of interests common to all mankind; should be not a nationalist but an internationalist,” he says.

The ancestors of Felix’s father Askar Aliyev immigrated to Armenia from the Iranian province of Khoy. His father lost his parents at the age of seven. Before he came of age he was brought up by Armenians, their neighbors.

“He married my mother Yepraksia Danielyan in 1936. My father played the clarinet perfectly. Everybody knew Maestro Ali in Echmiadzin. He was invited to play to the best wedding parties,” Felix says.

Julietta remembers with a heavy heart how the Armenian-Azeri strife depressed her father-in-law despite the fact that their neighbors and friends said: “Ali jan, be well and don’t worry, not a single hair on your head will be harmed.” And, indeed, nobody bothered him or his family.

Ali died in 1998. Felix says that they feel ashamed instead of their compatriots. The whole family was shocked after the Sumgait events. And when he remembers that an Azeri army officer killed an Armenian army officer at a conference in Budapest two winters ago, his voice becomes subdued.

Felix has relatives in Azerbaijan but he has no contacts with them. Once a relative of his father was taken aback when he learned from one of his acquaintances that they continued to live in Echmiadzin.

“I could not move to Azerbaijan, as my wife and my mother are Armenians. At best we had to move to another country,” he says.

Felix says he is Christian; his favorite church is Surb Gayane. He says that his purity and philanthropy are the Koran and the Bible.

Felix lives adhering to his own principle: “You should be grateful to the nation that educates you and brings you up.”

He has been a fan of weightlifting since his school years. He graduated from the Institute of Physical Training in 1966. Since 1970 he has been working at the school of Geghakert.

The merited coach brought up 33 masters of sport, two of whom are of the international level. World-famed Yuri Sargsyan, merited master of sport, is also Felix’s pupil. Sargsyan held 14 new world records and in 1982-1983 he became the world champion in his sport. Today Yuri Sargsyan is a deputy head of the Weightlifting Federation of Australia. In 1985 the school of Geghakert was named after him.

Among Aliyev’s pupils are also Vigen Khachatryan, 25, who became the third prize-winner at the World Championships in 2001, and in the same year won the silver medal at the Youth European Championships, and Arkadi Barseghyan, 22, who became the Junior European Champion in 2002.

Felix is sure that he will still give champions to the world. Reading Sigmund Freud he finds the answers to many questions worrying him.

“According to Freud, a person’s nationality depends on his self-consciousness. It is necessary to appreciate in him values common to all mankind.”

http://www.armenianow.com/?action=viewArticle&AID=1189

why you not mention Armenia weightlifting coach he is Azeri but Armenia is trying to hide him. Armenia dont like to mention him and he does not go to international tournaments is it because of his Azeri origins???

This is from an Armenian news media.
Next time think before you fart!

[Hovik]

Hovik you can see that Reincarnated Am just posted a article about the Armenian destruction of Muslim holy sites. also on the link I provided you can see that how the most of the mosques in Erevan was destroyed. if you want I can spell Erevan like Yerevan because you like it if you spell Azeri not like "Azeri"?

I don't care how you spell... it's up to you.

Show physical VISUAL evidence of what you call "Armenian destruction of Muslim holy sights" or leave this discussion.

That is where the ARTICLE Re posted and YOU lose credibility...

[Kharpert]

The Yerevan of 1827 has never been the Yerevan of 1988. The reason the Muslim population of that city is no longer there is because that city no longer exists.

[Turanist]

why I lose credibility?

Also how can Yerevan be different city is this new denial tactics. But I can say that the Van where Armenians used to live is not the same Van now it is completely different town.

[Gavur]

Well you got to be credible to start with to lose it!

[Kharpert]

But I can say that the Van where Armenians used to live is not the same Van now it is completely different town.

This is after the Armenian Genocide. Obviously it's not the same town.

[Gavur]

Turkey: Virtual memorial created for victims of massacres committed by

Anatolia news agency
30 Dec 05

Ankara, 30 December: A "virtual memorial" has been formed on the
Internet for more than one million victims of massacres committed by
Armenians, it was reported on Friday [30 December].

The internet site has been prepared in English, French and Spanish,
and it says that "From eastern Anatolia (1914-22) to Azerbaijan
(1988-94), massive slaughters perpetrated by Armenians caused more
than one million dead. We rise this Virtual Memorial in the memory of
the graveless and forgotten victims of those denied genocides. This
Memorial is also dedicated to all the victims of Armenian terrorism
(1975-85) that spilled the blood of innocent people in Europe and
United-States of America."

"Write your name and drop a flower to the memory of the forgotten
victims. All together, let's break the silence ... So memory can
live!"

"Http://memorial.imprescriptible.us/index.php" is the address of the
internet site.