Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

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Turkish Grey Wolves target 'Chinese'
By Aykan Erdemir and Merve Tahiroglu
July 30, 2015


[Aykan Erdemir is a former member of the Turkish parliament and a
nonresident fellow at Foundation for Defense of Democracies, where
Merve Tahiroglu is a research associate.]

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's visit Wednesday with Chinese
President Xi Jinping in Beijing came at an awkward time.

So far this month, Turkish ultranationalists have attacked two Chinese
restaurants in Istanbul, assaulted Koreans (whom they mistook for
Chinese) at an iconic palace and tried to break into the Chinese
embassy in Ankara. The perpetrators claim to be avenging China's
alleged prohibition of Ramadan fasting among its Turkic-speaking
Uighur Muslims. The attacks have not only strained Turco-Sino
relations, but also threaten to devolve into a new phase of violence
against Turkey's religious and ethnic minorities.

The violence comes on the heels of an unexpected political opportunity
for Turkey's nationalists. The Islamist-rooted Justice and Development
Party (AKP) is seeking a coalition partner for the next government,
and the main far-right party--which came in third in last month's
parliamentary elections--stands a real chance to join a Turkish
government for the first time in over a decade.

The attacks came after days of campaigning by ultranationalist groups
against China. Since the beginning of Ramadan, Turkish pro-government
newspapers have spread various allegations--with varying degrees of
truth behind them--about China's mistreatment of Uighurs.

"Communist China forces fasting Uighurs to drink alcohol!" screamed
one headline in a radical Islamist paper.

Prayer vigils and symbolic demonstrations followed throughout the
country--one even involved leaving a bloodied doll on a table at a
Chinese restaurant. The instigators of the attacks are reportedly from
the radical youth wings of the two major ultranationalist parties: the
Nationalist Movement Party (MHP)'s neo-fascist "Grey Wolves" and a
similar group run by the rival Great Union Party (BBP). In an
apparently coordinated campaign, both of the groups hung banners last
week reading, "We miss the smell of Chinese blood"--lyrics from a
battle hymn by an ultranationalist singer.

Their solidarity with the distant Uighurs may seem odd, but many
Turkish ultranationalists view the Turkic-speaking peoples of Central
Asia--the region from which the nomads who would settle Anatolia
originally came--as their brethren. Pan-Turkic ideology originated in
the 19th century but flourished in the 1940s and 50s in the wake of
trending historical novels, which glorified the Turkic tribes as
warriors while portraying the Chinese as their implacable archenemies.
The novels of Nihal Atsiz, one of the founding fathers of pan-Turkic
ideology, are still listed as recommended reading by MHP's youth wing.

With chants of "Allahu Akbar" accompanying almost all of the attacks,
it is unclear whether the violence was motivated by ultranationalist
or radical Islamist feelings--or both. While pan-Turkic nationalism
began as a secular movement, it has increasingly incorporated Islam
and Islamism--particularly since the 1970s. During the polarization of
the Cold War, ultranationalists calling themselves Ulkucu
("Idealists") sought to draw religious conservatives to their movement
against the radical left. They spread the message of the
"Turkish-Islamic Ideal"--the idea that Turks had elevated Islam (and
virtually everything else they touched) to its noblest form.

In the political arena, ultranationalists and Islamists became
coalition partners in two so-called "Nationalist Front" governments in
1975 and 1977. That period saw exceptional political violence, with
daily gang fights between the radical left and far-right factions that
took more than 4,500 lives. The Grey Wolves were the dominant force
among the far right, attacking not only leftists but also
Alevis--adherents of an offshoot of Shi'ite Islam who make up between
10 and 15 percent of Turkey's population. One of the most notorious
massacres occurred in 1978, when a mob of ultranationalists killed at
least 111 in the southern city of Kahramanmaras, most of them Alevi.
The perpetrators placed the burnt and mutilated bodies of their
victims, which included pregnant women and children, on sticks for
display. The violence ended only in 1980, when the military intervened
in a coup d'etat.

[Photo: Hundreds of Turkish Nationalist Party (CHP) members, also
known as the "Grey Wolves" shout anti-Italian, and anti-PKK slogans in
front of the Italian Consulate in down-town Istanbul, November 18,
1998.]

In the following decades, some ultranationalist factions became too
Islamized for the movement to stay intact. In 1993, Islamist
nationalists formally split from the MHP--then, as now, Turkey's main
ultranationalist movement--and launched the more religiously extreme
BBP. Today, the rivalry between the two parties extends to their youth
wings, with each vying to outdo the other in its commitment to radical
nationalism.

Despite the formal split, boundaries remain permeable between Turkey's
ultranationalists and Islamists because of shared
religious-conservative values. After the 1980 coup shut down the
parties that made up the Nationalist Front government, their newer
iterations once again formed a political alliance in 1991 and entered
that year's election on a joint ticket. And while coalition
negotiations have only just begun, the AKP's socially conservative
voter base is most compatible with that of the MHP--making a
partnership between the two among the likeliest coalition scenarios.

Such a coalition could lead to a third Nationalist Front-style
government, and a return to the intolerant atmosphere of the 1970s.
While the right-left polarization of the Cold War era has softened,
ethnic and religious minorities remain a compelling target for
ultranationalists and Islamist radicals. To many ultranationalists,
perceived concessions in the Kurdish peace process and a record number
of Kurds and Alevis elected to parliament last month are all affronts
to the nation which must be remedied by whatever means necessary.

Turkey--rarely a haven of intercommunal bliss--is now witnessing an
alarming rise in xenophobia. Last September ultranationalists lynched
a 20-year-old man in Antalya for speaking Kurdish, and two months
later BBP's youth wing tried to march to Istanbul's main synagogue
holding a banner threatening to "besiege your temples." In recent
months, the doors of Alevi homes across the country have been
ominously marked with red X's. During the visit of a world-renowned
Armenian pianist to the city of Kars last month, the local Grey Wolves
leader wondered aloud whether his followers should "go on an Armenian
hunt." With ultranationalists thus emboldened, a return to the
violence of the 1970s is distinctly possible.

Remarks by the MHP chairman last week inspire little optimism that
cooler heads will prevail. "What is the difference between a Korean
and a Chinese?" he said when asked about the attacks on Koreans. "Does
it matter? They both have slanted eyes."

http://www.politico.eu/article/turkish-grey-wolves-target-chinese/

[Artashes]

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HAMASYAN SADDENED BY NATIONALISTS' ATTITUDE TOWARDS HIM IN KARS

16:31, 10 July, 2015

YEREVAN, JULY 10, ARMENPRESS. Armenian renowned pianist Tigran
Hamasyan was deeply disappointed by the fact that racist statements
were addressed to him after his "Luys i Luso" concert program in
historical Armenian cities of Ani and Kars. Hamasyan wrote about this
in his Facebook page:

"It is pretty sad to be threatened in Kars, the region where all my
ancestry comes from. I mean all we did is sing and play Armenian
sacred hymns and preyers. I say no to any kind of extremism! Hate
isn't the reason why we came to Kars to perform sacred music hymns
and prayers...It is to remind people that hate is not the way to be
free and at peace with yourself and also remind that people who "use"
belief for political reasons are often creating hate between people.

Thank you to all the poeple who came out to support the concerts in
Kars and Ani."

http://armenpress.am/eng/news/811901...m-in-kars.html

What did he accept from our mortal enemy......Turk racism will never change, ever.

---- What did he expect ... ---
----- he was saddened -----
His emmediate ancestors (and ours) were killed (and are still being killed) for nothing more than what he did , and many more things of simply living.
How about utterly disgusted.

[Eddo211]

Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

What did he accept from our mortal enemy......Turk racism will never change, ever.

[Haykakan]

Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

HAMASYAN SADDENED BY NATIONALISTS' ATTITUDE TOWARDS HIM IN KARS

16:31, 10 July, 2015

YEREVAN, JULY 10, ARMENPRESS. Armenian renowned pianist Tigran
Hamasyan was deeply disappointed by the fact that racist statements
were addressed to him after his "Luys i Luso" concert program in
historical Armenian cities of Ani and Kars. Hamasyan wrote about this
in his Facebook page:

"It is pretty sad to be threatened in Kars, the region where all my
ancestry comes from. I mean all we did is sing and play Armenian
sacred hymns and preyers. I say no to any kind of extremism! Hate
isn't the reason why we came to Kars to perform sacred music hymns
and prayers...It is to remind people that hate is not the way to be
free and at peace with yourself and also remind that people who "use"
belief for political reasons are often creating hate between people.

Thank you to all the poeple who came out to support the concerts in
Kars and Ani."

http://armenpress.am/eng/news/811901/hamasyan-saddened-by-nationalists%E2%80%99-attitude-towards-him-in-kars.html

[Eddo211]

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I wouldn't spend the time. A disorienting /disruptive / debilitating shot(s) followed by a skull shot and it's move on to next target.
Those in this picture have no dought been breeding. Anyone in the world can't see the rottenness that is being passed on to next generation to continue ... Look at the picture and read their words.

One grenade will take most of them out and you finish them all off with your AK.......I still want their hands.

[Artashes]

Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

Graywolf scumbag trowing signs deserve cutting off both their hands.

I wouldn't spend the time. A disorienting /disruptive / debilitating shot(s) followed by a skull shot and it's move on to next target.
Those in this picture have no dought been breeding. Anyone in the world can't see the rottenness that is being passed on to next generation to continue ... Look at the picture and read their words.

[Eddo211]

Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

MHP youth wing head slams Armenian jazz concert

http://www.todayszaman.com/anasayfa_mhp-youth-wing-head-slams-armenian-jazz-concert_391862.html

Graywolf scumbag trowing signs deserve cutting off both their hands.

[Haykakan]

Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

We as people are retarded honestly. For thousands of years, we have lived well in other countries but not our own. We have helped build some of the strongest empires, yet we do not have our own. We have built endless amount of empires including Ottoman empire, soviet union, Iran, Iraq, Argentina, France, Russia, Turkey, US, Lebanon, Syria, and so many others all become prosperous, yet the majority in our country are either unemployed and/or live in poverty.

If America/Turkey/Iran/Russia decide to start killing all Armenians in their countries, then we have nobody to blame but ourselves. We continue to ignore history and live as diaspora. If even 10% of the minds in the diaspora were to move to Armenia, there would be a sudden shift in the country. You do not need to live in Yerevan, or even in Armenia, but you can go there now and start making a difference. Sorry for the rant, I'm jetlagged and full of mixed emotions.

Good post!

[Shant03]

Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

We as people are retarded honestly. For thousands of years, we have lived well in other countries but not our own. We have helped build some of the strongest empires, yet we do not have our own. We have built endless amount of empires including Ottoman empire, soviet union, Iran, Iraq, Argentina, France, Russia, Turkey, US, Lebanon, Syria, and so many others all become prosperous, yet the majority in our country are either unemployed and/or live in poverty.

If America/Turkey/Iran/Russia decide to start killing all Armenians in their countries, then we have nobody to blame but ourselves. We continue to ignore history and live as diaspora. If even 10% of the minds in the diaspora were to move to Armenia, there would be a sudden shift in the country. You do not need to live in Yerevan, or even in Armenia, but you can go there now and start making a difference. Sorry for the rant, I'm jetlagged and full of mixed emotions.

[Artashes]

Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

MHP youth wing head slams Armenian jazz concert

http://www.todayszaman.com/anasayfa_mhp-youth-wing-head-slams-armenian-jazz-concert_391862.html

The head of the Nationalist Movement Party's (MHP) youth organization in Kars has asked if Armenians should be hunted down in the streets, in reaction to Armenian jazz musician Tigran Hamasyan's concert in Kars on Sunday evening.

According to a story in the Hürriyet daily on Thursday, Tolga Adıgüzel criticized the fact that the performers wore priests' vestments. Adıgüzel claimed that in 1915, Armenians killed many Turks in the same area as the concert, which is why the concert was inappropriate. He questioned the motive of the concert, asking: “Who supports them at home [in Turkey]? What is their intention? Who are those sold-out traitor brains that organized the event? Should we hunt down the Armenians in the streets?”

Adıgüzel stated that Turkish people do not have national ceremonies or festivals at the holy places of Armenians, saying: “Just because we didn't do it it does not mean we cannot. We noted this [concert].” He also claimed that if something similar happens again, they will do anything necessary to stop it.

Hamasyan came to Turkey for the Turkish leg of his ongoing project “Luys i Luso,” a representation of Armenian sacred music from the fifth to 20th centuries performed in 100 churches around the world and performed a concert in the ruins of the medieval city of Ani in the eastern Turkish province of Kars.

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How safe does anyone think the Armenians are that remain in the turc incampment today ? How safe yesterday and yesteryear ?
Except for a small (really small) percent, the hominoids that call themselves turc haven't changed and are not going to.
They simply don't posses the moral fiber.
They're turcs.