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  • #431
    Re: Christian workers throats slit by Turkish Islamists.

    Originally posted by hrai View Post
    may, the reason for that should be pretty obvious, especially on this forum. Turkey, the evil republic, is the successor state to the evil empire.

    I agree with you totally about the double standards regarding "secularism" and democracy. What a joke that is.
    France enforces whichever EU law it sees fit and probably all the member nations do the same.
    New Zealand put as a shining example of democracy but isn't the English queen still Head of State there? Who voted for her then?
    And the English queen/king cannot, by law, be a Catholic. Standards/Standards.

    Turkey does itself no favours whatsoever in it's treatment of minorities and it's "bang on" nationalism........as regards it's muslim content, I could care less.
    The Prime Minister of New Zealand appoints a governor general...then gets the Queen's seal of approval. So it is a position appointed by an elected member of New Zealand's government.

    But the governor general has no role in government apart from that Governor General signs off laws and can call new elections if the government is in chaos. So he/she can't express religious views...which is the entire point of secularism...no religion in politics.

    As for a republic...some people think of that but the republican movement is not that big enough yet, we have a Maori King...so we might only need to move a few chairs round, and get to keep a constitutional monarchy.

    Getting to racism...you can't escape it anywhere. A lot is due to globalization. Nowhere can escape it. In the end the only way to counter it is through preaching tolerance of other people's cultures and religions, and living by it. Unfortunately many people in Turkey don't believe in tolerance...which results in some Armenian's responding in a equally intolerant manner.
    Last edited by hipeter924; 04-27-2009, 02:12 AM.

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    • #432
      Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

      I agree and I alongside many others fight against this Yakamoz but the Turkish people have to be more understanding and completely acknowledge WHY we Armenians feel or think the way we do today.
      We understand it. It is an educated hate.. Otherwise, No sensible person will hate another for something happened 100 years ago. Anyway, after all, Blood hate is still common at eastern anatolia..

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      • #433
        Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

        Originally posted by Palavra View Post
        We understand it. It is an educated hate.. Otherwise, No sensible person will hate another for something happened 100 years ago. Anyway, after all, Blood hate is still common at eastern anatolia..
        Lan, are you deaf or dumb
        we don't hate you are you worthy of hate?
        we hate whats been done (Genocide) and still being done (denial).
        Bukadarinida anlamiyorsan siktir ol git!
        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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        • #434
          Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

          Realy? So maybe I should close my eyes and believe you. Like you believe your ideal tales?

          Gözümemi inanayım sanamı kardeşim!

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          • #435
            Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

            Goz var nizamda var.nizami unutma
            You're just like a brainwashed child that your acusing us of.
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #436
              Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

              Originally posted by Gavur View Post
              I started this thread to highlight the frequency and persistency of human rights abuses against people that are considered as "Other", and since then it ha decreased some what , but enough to show improving direction.Now if only they eliminate 301.
              So, Gavur, in the near 4 years this thread's been open, do you believe that turkey has started to learn tolerance or just indifference?

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              • #437
                Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                they are definitely cleaning up their image, but it was so out of control, they still have long ways to go.They need to start by abolishing 301, that would confirm their progress and show that these modest gains are not temporary.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • #438
                  Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                  Nothing Personal: Turkey’s Top Ten Challenges
                  April 19, 2009
                  by Raffi K. Hovannisian http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/...en-challenges/
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #439
                    Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                    You're just like a brainwashed child that your acusing us of.
                    That is not an argument too.

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                    • #440
                      Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                      Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                      they are definitely cleaning up their image, but it was so out of control, they still have long ways to go.They need to start by abolishing 301, that would confirm their progress and show that these modest gains are not temporary.
                      One step forward, two steps back in my view, sadly. Witness the vile DVD used to brainwash school kids, the plays enacted late last year to school kids. The turkish government is so petrified of the "internet generation" and trying to instil their propaganda at the earliest stage possible.

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