Was The Armenian Genocide Necessary By The Turks?

[imported_RUDO]

Ann, are you Turkish? I've noticed that a relatively recent Turkish tactic is to blame the whole Genocide on the Jews, thus deflecting the blame away from the Turks.

Good sentence.Is it logical to think All young turks were Jews.I think Young Turks were responsible for it only.

[Reincarnated Am]

How come we don’t see many Turks voting here?

TurQ, Cosmos 2, and all the others, where are you? let's hear what you have to say.

[1.5 million]

wtf?

He is incorrectly assuming that phantom is the same as a phantom in another forum who once used "Hagarag" as in monker.

BTW - shame on anyone who would consider that the Armenian Genocide was "necessary" for anything - and/or from anyones (rational/human) perspective) - great shame on anyone who would or even could hold such a view.

[maral_m79]

BTW - shame on anyone who would consider that the Armenian Genocide was "necessary" for anything - and/or from anyones (rational/human) perspective) - great shame on anyone who would or even could hold such a view.

First of all thank you! It seems that you meant me!

Anyways, Young Turks (CUP) wanted to create a homogenity in Anatolia... They managed to creat that "Pathological Homogenity" through the systemical, deliberate extermination of the indigenous Armenian population of Anatolia...
So please don't make my words look like that I am supporting that twisted, hideous, devlish and pathological plan to annihilate my own family an nation.. I don't think that any one can suspect my stance around here!

If you ask me, I'll tell you that I only voted YES because I know for a fact that CUP guys were fully aware of what they are doing, and it wasn't an accident or something they did but didn't mean to do.

[1.5 million]

I voted "Yes" ...

For the Turkish government, and the Ittihad ve Terraki party, the total extermination of the Armenians was necessary...

The poll question asks if you think it was necessary - you have answered "yes" and followed with this statement. I am not questioning your overall views concerning the Armenian Genocide - however anyone who says that "yes" the Armenian Genocide was "necessary" is in effect justifying such a thing. Even if you caveat such a statement - you are clearly saying that the viewpoint (and actions) of the CUP was/were legitimate on a certain level. My argument is that to say such a thing is both untrue and a great diservice.

[Kharpert]

This proves that the poll question is too ambiguous.

[1.5 million]

most any poll with 2 possibilities for an answer is likely deficient. When one asks if something is "necessary" they are opening up the discussion/consideration to quite a few variables. Perhaps one might consider the elimination of all humans on the planet to be "neceassary" for the survival of snails...all depends on your perspective and such...

[AnnFrankenstein]

I don't think she is...

The Donemah Jews had a role in the Genocide... But, that does not mean releasing the Turks from the responsibility of the Genocide.
The Jews and even the Germans had a role in the planning of the Armenian Genocide, yet the fact remains that the Turks were the ones who put it's scheme and carried it out..

I'll reply to you instead, because I don't really have much patience for stupidities.

No matter how much the turks would try to blame the whole genocide on the jews, they still played their part in it and are just as guilty. It wasn't only dunme jews as there were jews from all over the world involved, including the US. Germany also played a part in it and they must also assume responsibility.

To put it all in a simple way. One guy (the jew) gets the idea to get rid of someone and makes a plan. Another guy (a German) supplies the gun to be used in the killing and trains the killer on how to use the gun. A third person (a turk) is convinced that it's a good thing and carries out the killing. Now tell me how in the world the turk will deflect the blame from himself when it's found out that the jew planned it.

Anyway, I want the turks to pay for what they did, but I also want the Germans and the jews to pay for what they did. Otherwise, if we hang everything on the turks, Germany and the jews will get away with committing a major crime on our people and I won't accept that. But for some reason, certain people are hung up on and obsessed with the turks, so much that they are willing to ovelook anything and everything else. I don't talk much about the turks because it has all been said a million times and I'm not into kicking a dead horse just to hear the same old worn out and tired, "It was relocation, it was a civil war, it was a rebelion, it was treason, it was war time casualties, it was from sickness and disease, there were never any Armenians in Turkey, the Armenians decided to leave, many turks died too, etc etc etc". I talk about the jew involvement in the Armenian Genocide because no one else does. Well, no one else did untill I started to.

BTW, I also accuse the jews with complicity after the fact, which is a legal term. When someone tries to aid the person who commited the crime in covering it up. It's called complicity after the fact and that is EXACTLY what the jews are doing. Herzel started doing this in 1895 and the jews are still doing it to this very day and you know they are.

[maral_m79]

This proves that the poll question is too ambiguous.

I agree with you, maybe a little explination to the poll question next time will help.

I am not questioning your overall views concerning the Armenian Genocide.

If you were not, then you should've considered a nicer approach, saying maybe something like "Maral, you did not understand what the question was about" or something like that ... instead of saying

great shame on anyone who would or even could hold such a view.

Thanks anyway!

[1.5 million]

If you were not, then you should've considered a nicer approach, saying maybe something like "Maral, you did not understand what the question was about" or something like that ... instead of saying

You initially chose to think that I was aiming my comments at you when I never named names but poised my comment in a generic sense. Regardless -at least my comment has perhaps gotten you and others to think a bit about this issue. Of course the question itself was flawed/incomplete - but in any event I cannot see any sane/thinking/feeling/person ever answering yes to such a proposition. Your answer seems to have been one of misinterpretation of the question or wanting to make some point beyond it that was not realy properly related to it.