Asala:demands To Stop "meaningless Negotiations With Enemy Of Centuries"

[Gondorian]

Well for one thing Turkey is right now blockading Armenia, both physically and politically, negotiations can in the short term lift the blockade, even if it is only temporary.

Negotiations with Turkey will also signal Germany and Israel that the Turks are getting less pushy and that therefore the coast is clear for them to finally recognize the Armenian Genocide.

Those are three immediate benefits from negotiation, even if they fail, imagine what Armenia will get if negotiations succeed!

Turkey and Armenia will still be rivals, and like with Greece will often be openly hostile to each other, however negotiations and peace would be a much better situation then the one that exists today.

Negotiations also leads to trade, and trade leads to influence over both ordinary people and the rulling elite of any country, influence leads to understanding, understanding leads to peace, not over night but over a long period of time.

[maral_m79]

Well for one thing Turkey is right now blockading Armenia, both physically and politically, negotiations can in the short term lift the blockade, even if it is only temporary.

Turkey "Did Not" offer opening boarder gate in case of negotiation...
Turkey had closed the boarders after the Liberation of Artakh back in the 1990s, and to open the boarder gate, Turkey wants Not only "Dropping" of the Genocide claims but the withdrawal of Armenians from Karabagh !!!

That's what Turkey wants to open the boarder-gate , and THAT is an unacceptable to any Armenian !!

Negotiations with Turkey will also signal Germany and Israel that the Turks are getting less pushy and that therefore the coast is clear for them to finally recognize the Armenian Genocide..

My friend, Germany had already RECOGNIZED the Armenian Genocide in June 2005, and even "Apologized" to the Armenian people for "It's own role in the Genocide of 1915" ...

As for Israel, I guess it will only recognize the Armenian Genocide if USA recognize it now ! If that happens, Turkey will be alone, face to face with it's dark history ... and will have no choice but to recognize the Armenian Genocide!

Those are three immediate benefits from negotiation, even if they fail, imagine what Armenia will get if negotiations succeed!

Turkey and Armenia will still be rivals, and like with Greece will often be openly hostile to each other, however negotiations and peace would be a much better situation then the one that exists today.

Negotiations also leads to trade, and trade leads to influence over both ordinary people and the rulling elite of any country, influence leads to understanding, understanding leads to peace, not over night but over a long period of time.

Turkey must understand that Armenians are not "Begging" for it's gracous recognition of the Armenian Genocide, but "Demending Justice". Unlike Turkey, Armenians have nothing to loose, the economical situation of the RA will not be worse than now, on the contrary, it's imrpoving even if it's a slight little improvemnt. Of course if Turkey open the boarder gate, economy in RA will improve with greater rates .... But in exchange to what Turkey will allow that to happen !!!
Turks are not idiots to open the boarder gate just because Armenians accepted to sit and talk things through !! Turkey is attacking larger nations who recognized the Armenian Genocide, do I need to remind you of Erdogan's speech in the 60th celebration of WW2 end ?
Turkey will not let go THAT easy !!

[Gondorian]

Turkey "Did Not" offer opening boarder gate in case of negotiation...
Turkey had closed the boarders after the Liberation of Artakh back in the 1990s, and to open the boarder gate, Turkey wants Not only "Dropping" of the Genocide claims but the withdrawal of Armenians from Karabagh !!!

That's what Turkey wants to open the boarder-gate , and THAT is an unacceptable to any Armenian !!

I guess you are right there, it won't be that easy to get Turkey to end the blockade, however perhaps negotiations would convince them that it is in their best interests even without any of their demands being met? I agree with you though, that dropping of the Armenian Genocide and evacuations of Armenians from Karabagh is not an acceptable condition.

My friend, Germany had already RECOGNIZED the Armenian Genocide in June 2005, and even "Apologized" to the Armenian people for "It's own role in the Genocide of 1915" ...

I guess I missed that news in June, my mistake sorry.

As for Israel, I guess it will only recognize the Armenian Genocide if USA recognize it now ! If that happens, Turkey will be alone, face to face with it's dark history ... and will have no choice but to recognize the Armenian Genocide!

It's Chief Rabbi recognized it, so I suspect Likkud will be influenced by that since Likkud is the Bible and a Torah Party. Besides perhaps the appearance of the Turks themselves being on the road to recognition (Even if it is just an illusion) will speed up the process of recognition in Israel. You also forget that there are non Western Powers who are as against recognizing the Armenian Genocide as Turkey is.

Turkey must understand that Armenians are not "Begging" for it's gracous recognition of the Armenian Genocide, but "Demending Justice". Unlike Turkey, Armenians have nothing to loose, the economical situation of the RA will not be worse than now, on the contrary, it's imrpoving even if it's a slight little improvemnt. Of course if Turkey open the boarder gate, economy in RA will improve with greater rates .... But in exchange to what Turkey will allow that to happen !!!

Even if Turkey continues its blockade policy I am sure the RA will still prosper. It will be like a second Israel, developing exactly the same way.

Turks are not idiots to open the boarder gate just because Armenians accepted to sit and talk things through !! Turkey is attacking larger nations who recognized the Armenian Genocide, do I need to remind you of Erdogan's speech in the 60th celebration of WW2 end ?
Turkey will not let go THAT easy !!

Opinions vary on the intellect of the Turkish State, but still I guess I was wrong about that point.

However my point about speeding up the process of recognizing the Armenian Genocide in Israel still stands.