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I have already pasted the list below, but it seems I have to repaste it every now and then:
Bear in mind the list starts from the Kingdom of Van and does not include the rulers of the State of Aratta, Subartu and everything else before the kings of Urartu.
Rulers of Armenia up to 1375
Kings of Urartu
ARAMU the first known king of Urartu (in modern Armenia).
SARDURIS I
ISHPUINIS 825-810 BC.
MENUAS 810-785 BC.
ARGISHTIS I 785
SARDURIS II 763
RUSAS I 734
ARGISHTIS II 714
RUSAS II 685
SARDURIS III 645
ERIMENAS 635-629 BC
SARDURIS IV 629
Ervandian or Orontid Dynasty in Armenia
ERVAND (ORONTES) I, c. 401-c. 344 B.C.
ERVAND (ORONTES) II, c. 344-331
MITHRANES, 331-before 317
ERVAND (ORONTES) III, before 317-c. 260
SAMUS, c. 260
XERXES, after 228-c. 212
ERVAND (ORONTES) IV, c. 212-c. 200
Artashesian or Artaxiad Dynasty
ARTASHES (ARTAXIAS) I, 188-c. 165?
ARTAWAZD (ARTAVAZD) I
TIGRAN (TIGRANES) I
TIGRAN (TIGRANES) II, 95-55
ARTAWAZD (ARTAVAZD) II, 55-34
ALEXANDER HELIOS. Not member of dynasty
ARTASHES II, c. 30-20
TIGRAN (TIGRANES) III, 20-8/6
TIGRAN (TIGRANES) IV, 8-5
ARTAWAZD (ARTAVAZD) III, 5-2
TIGRAN (TIGRANES) IV and ERATO, 2 B.C.-A.D. 1?
ARIOBARZANES, A.D. 2-4. Not member of dynasty
ARTAWAZD (ARTAVAZD) IV, 4-6
TIGRAN (TIGRANES) V and ERATO, c. 6-14
Arsacids in Armenia
VONONES, 12-c.15
ORODES, c.15-c.18
ZENO/ARTASHES OF PONTUS, c.18-34. Not member of dynasty
ARSHAK I, 34-c.35
MITHRIDATES OF IBERIA, c.35-37, 42-51. Not member of dynasty
RHADAMISTES OF IBERIA, 51-54? Not member of dynasty
TRDAT (TIRIDATES) I, 53-c.60
TIGRAN (TIGRANES) VI, c.60-c.61/62. Not member of dynasty
TRDAT (TIRIDATES) I, c.62/66-c.75
SANATRUK, 75-110?
AXIDARES, 110-113?
PARTHAMASIRIS, 113-115?
VAGHARSH (VOLOGASES) I, 117-138/140
AURELIUS PACORUS, 161-163?
SOHAEMUS, 164-185, with interruptions. Not member of dynasty
VAGHARSH (VOLOGASES) II, c.180-191
XOSROV I, c.191-216/217?
TRDAT (TIRIDATES) II, c.216/217-252
HORMIZD-ARDASHIR, Sasanian, 252-c.272. Not member of dynasty
NARSEH, Sasanian, c.273-293. Not member of dynasty
XOSROV II, 279/280-287
TRDAT (TIRIDATES) III, 287-298
TRDAT (TIRIDATES) IV, the Great, 298/99-c.330
XOSROV III Kotak, c.330-338
TIRAN, c.338/39-350
ARSHAK II, 350-c.364/367
PAP, 367-c.374
VARAZDAT, 374-378
ARSHAK III AND VAGHARSHAK, Pap's sons. c.378-c.389
XOSROV IV, in Eastern Armenia. 384-389
VRAMSHAPUH, replacing brother XOSROV IV, 389/401-417
XOSROV IV, 417-418
SHAPUH, Sasanian. Son of shah Yazdgird I, 418-422. Not member of dynasty
ARTASHES/ARDASHIR, SON OF VRAMSHAPUH, 422-428
Marzpans
VASAK I OF SIWNIK' C. 442-451
[SAHAK II BAGRATUNI, INSURGENT MARZPAN] 482-483
VAHAN MAMIKONEAN, AUTONOMOUS MARZPAN 485-505/510
VARD MAMIKONEAN, AUTONOMOUS MARZPAN 505/10-509/514
MZHEZH (MEZEZIUS) I GNUNI 518-548
PHILIP SIWNI 574-576
MUSHEGH II MAMIKONEAN 591 ?
VARAZ-TIROTS' II BAGRATUNI 628 - AFTER 631
Presiding Princes of Armenia
MZHEZH (MEZEZIUS) II GNUNI, COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE IMPERIAL TROOPS, 628-635
DAVID SAHARHUNI, CUROPALATE 635-638
THEODORE RHSHTUNI, HIGH CONSTABLE AND PATRICIAN, 638-C.645
VARAZ-TIROTS' II BAGRATUNI, CUROPALATE, 645
THEODORE RHSHTUNI, HIGH CONSTABLE
for the Emperor, 645-653
for the Caliph, 653/4-655
MUSHEGH II MAMIKONEAN, MASTER OF THE HORSE for the Emperor. Passes to the Caliph, 654
HAMAZASP II MAMIKONEAN,
for the Caliph, 655-657
CUROPALATE for the Emperor, 657-658
GREGORY I MAMIKONEAN, for the Caliph, 662-684/85
ASHOT II BAGRATUNI, for the Caliph, 686-689/90
NERSEH KAMSARAKAN, CUROPALATE for the Emperor, 689/90-691
SMBAT VI BAGRATUNI, PATRICIAN for the Emperor, 691-697
for the Caliph, 697-700
CUROPALATE for the Emperor, 700-711
ASHOT III BAGRATUNI, for the Caliph, 732-748
GREGORY II MAMIKONEAN, for the Caliph, 748-750
[MUSHEGH MAMIKONEAN, HEAD OF THE INSURGENT PRINCES] C.750
SAHAK VII BAGRATUNI
HIGH CONSTABLE for the Caliph, 755-761
SMBAT VII BAGRATUNI
HIGH CONSTABLE for the Caliph, 761-772
TACHAT ANDZEWATS'I, for the Caliph, 780-782/785
ASHOT IV BAGRATUNI, for the Caliph, 806-826
SMBAT VIII BAGRATUNI
HIGH CONSTABLE for the Caliph, 826-855
BAGARAT II BAGRATUNI OF TARON, PRINCE OF PRINCES, for the Caliph, 830-852
ASHOT V BAGRATUNI
HIGH CONSTABLE, 856
PRINCE OF PRINCES for the Caliph, 862-885
ASHOT I BAGRATUNI OF TARON
CUROPALATE for the Emperor, 877-878
Kings of Armenia
(BAGRATID DYNASTY)
ASHOT I (V) the Great, 885-890
SMBAT I (IX) the Martyr (son), 890-914
ASHOT II (VI) the Iron (son), King of Kings, 914-928
ABAS I (brother), 928-952
ASHOT III (VII) the Merciful (son), 952-977
SMBAT II (X) the Conqueror (son), 977-989
GAGIK I (brother), 989-1020
HOVHANNES [JOHN]-SMBAT III (XI) (son), 1020-1040
ASHOT IV (VIII) the Valiant (brother), 1021-1039
GAGIK II (son), 1042-1045
[cedes Armenia to the Empire], dies c. 1079
Kings of Kars
(BAGRATID DYNASTY)
MUSHEGH (son of ABAS I of Armenia), 962-984
ABAS I (son), 984-1029
GAGIK-ABAS II (son), 1029-1064, d. 1080
[cedes Kars to the Empire]
Kings of Lorhi and Aghbania
(BAGRATID DYNASTY)
GURGEN I (son) of Ashot III of Armenia), 982-989
DAVID ANHOGHIN [the Landless] (son), 989-1046/48
GURGEN II-Kiwrike (son), 1046-1081/89
[Lorhi annexed by the Saljuqs]
Kings of Vaspurakan
(ARTSRUNID DYNASTY)
XACH'IK-GAGIK, 908-936/37
DERENIK-ASHOT (son), 936/37-953
ABUSAHL-HAMAZASP (brother), 953-972
ASHOT-SAHAK (son), 972-983
GURGEN-XACH'IK (brother), 983-1003
SENEK'ERIM-HOVHANNES [JOHN] (brother), 1003-1021, d. 1027
[cedes Vaspurakan to the Empire] (son)
Kings of Siwnik'
A. Line of Siwnik'
SMBAT II, 963-c. 998
VASAK VI (son), c. 998-1019
SMBAT III (cousin and nephew), 1019-?
GREGORY V (brother), ?-c. 1091
B. Line of Gardman-Aghbania
HOVHANNES [JOHN]-SENEK'ERIM (adopted son of Gregory V), c. 1091-1105
GREGORY VI (son), 1105-1166
Kings of Kakhetia
A.
KWIRIKE III the Great, 1010-1029
B.
BAGRATID DYNASTY
GAGIK of Lorhi (son of David Anhoghin and nephew of KWIRIKE III), 1029-1058
AGHSART'AN I (son), 1058-1084
KWIRIKE IV (son), 1084-1102
AGHSART'AN II (nephew), 1102-1105 [Kakhetia annexed by Georgia]
Princes and Kings of Cilician Armenia
A. RUBENID DYNASTY
RUBEN I, 1080-1095
CONSTANTINE I (son), 1095-1099
THEODORE I (son), 1100-1129
LEWON (LEO) I (brother), 1129-1138, d. 1141
[Cilicia occupied by the Byzantines, 1138-1145]
THEODORE II (son), 1145-1169
RUBEN II (son), 1169-1170
MLEH (uncle), 1170-1175
RUBEN III (nephew), 1175-1186
LEWON (LEO) II (I) the Great (brother), 1186-1198/99; King of Armenia, 1198/99-1219
ISABEL (daughter), 1219-1222
PHILIP OF ANTIOCH (consort), 1222-1225
B. HET'UMID DYNASTY
HET'UM I of Lambron (second consort of ISABEL), 1226-1269, d. 1270
LEWON (LEO) III (II) (son), 1269-1289
HET'UM II (son), 1289-1293, 1294-1296, 1299-1305, d. 1308
THEODORE III (I) (brother), 1293-1294, d. 1299
SMBAT (brother), 1296-1298
CONSTANTINE II (I) (brother), 1298-1299
LEWON (LEO) IV (III) (son of THEODORE III), 1305-1308
OSHIN (son of LEO III), 1308-1320
LEWON (LEO) V (IV) (son), 1320-1341
C. LUSIGNAN DYNASTY
GUY I de LUSIGNAN (cousin of LEO V), 1342-1344; Regent: John de Lusignan (brother), 1342
CONSTANTINE III (II) (outsider), 1344-1363
CONSTANTINE IV (III) (cousin), 1365-1373
PETER de LUSIGNAN, King of Cyprus, invited, 1368-1369
LEO VI (V) de LUSIGNAN (GUY'S nephew), 1373-1375
[Mamluk conquest of Cilician Armenia]Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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Incurable Brain Damage
Originally posted by mukedoDear Armenian communities, you were never a nation or had been a country in the past history, ...Ask yourself am i brainwashed?
A Babylonian clay tablet from 600 BC, the oldest world map ever found
Babylonian clay tablet 600 BC interpreted
Ptolemy Tabvla nova Asia Minoris 1513
Sebastian Munster Asia Minor 1544
Philippe de La Rue: Asia Minor 1652 (Section)
Frederik de Wit Nova Persiae Armeniae Natoliae et Arabiae 1662
Kiepert: Asian Turkey 1872 (Section)
Reconstruction of Ashkharhatsouits, see for yourself how much of Armenia your two bogus "states" are occupying
It doesn't include Cilicia and Trabizond which we will also take back.
Click on the map for the larger image.
Eat your heart out and have feces for dinner and drown yourself.Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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What others think of Armenia
Originally posted by mukedoDear Armenian communities, you were never a nation or had been a country in the past history, do you ever wonder why? ...Ask yourself am i brainwashed?Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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What others think of Armenia 2
Originally posted by mukedoDear Armenian communities, you were never a nation or had been a country in the past history, do you ever wonder why? ...Ask yourself am i brainwashed?Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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Originally posted by KharpertThanks for the posts, Hellektor.
Someone ban mukedo from the forums, he spammed the same message all over the board 15 times and it even spamming new threads with the same topic. It's just another spambot.
*For those who don't have the time to click the link, from that page:
"Cognitive Dissonance: a state of conflict between two thoughts, beliefs, etc. People can accommodate cognitive Dissonance in one of two ways:
a] the contradicting information leads one to invent new thoughts or information in order to maintain the integrity of your own information.
b] modifying one’s beliefs to accommodate the new information."Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:
I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
IV. They shut up and say nothing.
[URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]
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