Some Things Never Change

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Armenian deportees forced from their homes during the genocide of 1915-1923


Kurdish deportees forced from their villages in the southeast during Turkey’s ethnic cleansing campaign of the 1990s.

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A corpse of a young Armenian boy starved to death during the genocide which began on April 24, 1915.


A Kurdish boy in a remote village is forced to wave the Turkish flag as part of the festivities of “International Children’s Day”—a Turkish holiday celebrated annually on April 23—while commandos look on from the sidelines.

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Turkish soldiers posing with the decapitated heads of Armenian community leaders, 1915.


Turkish soldiers posing with the decapitated heads of Kurdish rebels, January 11, 1996.

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The last picture is blood-freezing.The soldier was smiling while there were two heads in his hands.

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RUDO

I remember when these pictures published some 10+ years ago in a British magazine(I suppose) later it turned out to be falsified, and the pictures just worked on.

Look the picutres carefully you would understand it.

I about the evacuation of the villages in south east, it is not an ethnic cleansing policy, though I dont support the way that issue is handled, it can not be labeled as "ethnic cleansing", because those villagers are settled to bigger cities in south east, like Diyarbakir. Cause most of those villagers lived in beyond the control, and PKK was using their food for their militants.As you can understand when the terrorists come to their villages and ask for food, they have to give otherwise PKK kills them.

But for me this is not also a solution, which helped PKK to gain grounds in big cities like DIyarbakir, I also opposed the village guards which is now accepted by everyone that it created even more problems. This PKK thing could've been stopped in 1988 by using the same strategy in 1998, pressuring Syria etc. I think that would be a better solution. General Atilla Atesh Pasha's solution proved to be the best one, cause no ammunition used, not even a bullet is used, Turkish army just poured soldiers towards Syrian border, thats it, they came to terms easily and smoothly and kicked the PKK gang leader out.

The last picture is blood-freezing.The soldier was smiling while there were two heads in his hands.

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RUDO

I remember when these pictures published some 10+ years ago in a British magazine(I suppose) later it turned out to be falsified, and the pictures just worked on.

Sometimes I think you seem quite intelligent.
Sometimes, like now, I think you are just a bullxxxxter. I saw that photograph published in the Turkish Daily News and other Turkish newspapers at the time.

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I remember a village I visited near Kagizman. "Evacuated" durng the early 1990s. A couple of dozen people returned in recent years but nobody lives there permanently now. When the soldiers forced everyone to leave they burned down the village school. They even cut down the wooden poles carrying the telephone and electricity cables, to make sure the village would never be re-settled.

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Yes they dont want those villages to be resettled or used by PKK thats why pursued that policy.

I have given my comments on this in an earlier post

I remember a village I visited near Kagizman. "Evacuated" durng the early 1990s. A couple of dozen people returned in recent years but nobody lives there permanently now. When the soldiers forced everyone to leave they burned down the village school. They even cut down the wooden poles carrying the telephone and electricity cables, to make sure the village would never be re-settled.

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Yes it was published, but later the Brit magazine did not support that the photos to be authentic.

Thats not the issue, PKK does a lot worse than that, I have heard of some soldiers cutting the ears of death PKK.

I am not saying these dont happen, but these are used for propoganda purposes as if the PKK is the victim, or those are innocent people. Innocent or not this can not approved at least our religon forbids those actions.

The motive of those propogandists is obvious, they white wash PKK or the victim. Thats not the case.

II am wondering those so-called human rights supporters of Greek or Armenian origin Europeans wont publish what PKK does to Kurdish villagers who wouldnt support their cause. They use 15-16 year old kids that they kidnap for murder of those villagers so that those teenagers wont have the chance to turn back. WHy dont they publish those photos?

I have a friend who is of Kurdish origin and from Hakkari, his uncle was murdered by PKK because he refused to pay the so-called PKK tax.
Are those so-called human rights advocates cared my friend's uncle?

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Thats not the issue, PKK does a lot worse than that, I have heard of some soldiers cutting the ears of death PKK.

I am not saying these dont happen, but these are used for propoganda purposes as if the PKK is the victim, or those are innocent people.

Ahhh, so your problem is not that the photo is genuine, it's not that there is something seriously wrong with both the mentality and behaviour of those depicted in the photo - it's merely that the photo has been published.

Did you have an American cousin in charge of Abu Ghraib, I wonder?