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Criminal punishment for denial is scheduled at the French Parliament May 18

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  • Criminal punishment for denial is scheduled at the French Parliament May 18

    In my opinion , it is a new risk to freedom of speech.
    The radicals on both sides will get strong positions.
    Without any discussion, there can not be a solution.
    Without any discussion, there can not be a persuasion.
    Becuse the sources from both sides have nothing in common.
    Someone new to this problem can not think safely. I know how it is impossible an Armenian to undestand Turkish side.The reverse is the same for a Turkish guy.

    We attack
    Attack, attack your fetal servitude
    We attack
    Attack, attack, attack with pesticide
    We attack
    All the years of propaganda
    We shall attack

    -SOAD
    13
    Yes
    46.15%
    6
    No
    53.85%
    7

  • #2
    What about the arrest of David Irving a few months ago? Care to comment on that and draw a correlation to this?

    This is not a matter of freedom of speech. In a perfect world we would not have to pass this law because the Genocide would have been recognized. But it's not a perfect world, and as long as the Turkish Denial Machine attempts to distort history to its own ends we, whether as Armenians or citizens of any nation, are going to feel threatened and are going to need laws to protect the truth. The purpose of this bill is to defend one point of view from another, because one of those points of view is incorrect.

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    • #3
      This poll is misguided the question should be should there be a law against denial.the punishment of the deniar is a secondary question has to be decided by the courts on individual basis.

      Again famous philosepher Marx.groucho comes to mind he said

      "What ? are you going to believe me? or your own two eyes"
      "All truth passes through three stages:
      First, it is ridiculed;
      Second, it is violently opposed; and
      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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      • #4
        If everything about history can be explainded and discussed all over the world , all the truths will appear clearly.
        We should trust conscience of mankind.Don't be in hurry.May be length of our life is not enough to see this case's end.But we should fight for the pure truth.All of us should work together for this.
        Everytime There may be liars but no one can hide the sun.

        When I became the sun,
        I shone life into the man's hearts,
        -SOAD

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        • #5
          I don't know the David Irving 's case in deep but let people speak freely.Everybody knows the jewish genocide in WW2. If David Irving can change people's opinion on this subject.Let him change and see.
          But we should also mention about the genocides on ukrainians,gypsies,slavians and disabled people in WW2.


          When I became the sun,
          I shone life into the man's hearts,
          -SOAD

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          • #6
            We are talking about the French and they do have a law in their books that (this law is just an extension of) Admits to The Armenian Genocide by The Turks therefore siding with the guilty by way of denying carrys a price.
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #7
              We are talking about the French and they do have a law in their books that (this law is just an extension of) Admits to The Armenian Genocide by The Turks therefore siding with the guilty by way of denying carrys a price.
              I believe France's inner politic's dynamics is the real cause of such a decision. In an election where 100.000 s of votes play a critical role, politicians do not have the luxury of losing hunderd thousands of French-Armenian vote. Though one could easily say that France is acting like banana-republic saving the day and not thinking forward for the future relations of Turkey-France. When the day comes Turkey but more importantly we Turks will remember the stance that France has taken against us. Claiming Armenian genocide is a fact is one thing, punishing people who dont agree is another. The same goes with the Jewish holacaust as well.

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