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  • #11
    Originally posted by Kharpert
    Okay, Nationalist, answer me this:

    What makes countries different from one another?
    Let me think )

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    • #12
      Nationalist of an area or a people?
      [SIZE="5"][COLOR="Red"]FREE[/COLOR] [COLOR="Yellow"]Kurdi[/COLOR][COLOR="Green"]stan[/COLOR][/SIZE]

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      • #13
        Originally posted by ozdemir
        Mate ....can you please produce the 'title deed' from God which declares that this land belongs to you or anyone else. One obserd statement deserves another.
        How about we produce that title deed from God for Western Armenia, when your Azeri cousins produce the title deed from God for Karabagh???

        [only difference being your land grab was achieved by sissys through Genocide instead of fighting like men, yet Armenians won Karabagh fair and square with Azeris as aggressors]
        [url]http://www.ArmenianAncestry.com[/url] - [COLOR="Red"]Armenian[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]Genealogy[/COLOR] [COLOR="Orange"]Forum[/COLOR]

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Shaman
          I really can't help thinking that if Armenia loses its support from its european friends, what will happen?
          trust me that will never happen, we have too much power in Europe and lets not forget about our lobby in the U.S.

          Europe does not want Turkey in and this creates a wonderful opportunity for us, politics is politics my friend

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          • #15
            Originally posted by HayerMiacek
            trust me that will never happen, we have too much power in Europe and lets not forget about our lobby in the U.S.

            Europe does not want Turkey in and this creates a wonderful opportunity for us, politics is politics my friend

            Yes, politics is politics every time.
            That's why there is no any word about Armenians in Lousonne treaty.
            Turkey has no need for Europe.
            If you look at the world with politics eye-glasses,my friend,You should know there is no loyalty in politics espacially in international politics.
            Let's try to use humanity eye-glasses, because we are not politicians.
            Let's try to think and behave like Saints and Evliyas...
            Is it too hard ?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by NickyMartin
              Yes, politics is politics every time.
              That's why there is no any word about Armenians in Lousonne treaty.
              Turkey has no need for Europe.
              If you look at the world with politics eye-glasses,my friend,You should know there is no loyalty in politics espacially in international politics.
              Let's try to use humanity eye-glasses, because we are not politicians.
              Let's try to think and behave like Saints and Evliyas...
              Is it too hard ?
              Real-politik has hurt us and helped us at various times, just like any other people but we are not naive to just distance ourselves from it. To do this would not serve our interests but only yours. In a Utopian world we could act like "saints" but the in the real world this is impossible especially when our people are still threatend. We trusted Turks in 1908 and were did it get Armenians? Slaughtered.
              General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Shaman
                I really can't help thinking that if Armenia loses its support from its european friends, what will happen?
                What support? What friends?
                They have always stabbed us left and right.
                Think of the Lausanne treaty.
                Think of the complete blackout on genocidal acts in Sumgait, Baku, Gandzak, Shushi, Getashen, Shahoomian, Maragha, etc.
                Think of their total lack of action regarding the destruction of all Armenian monuments in usurped Nakhijevan.
                Think of their "can't care less" attitude regarding the destruction of Armenian heritage in occupied Armenia.
                What do those OSCE castrated eunuchs want from Artsakh? Why don't they recognize Artsakh and they are torturing Armenians for 14 years?

                The Euroxxxs just give lip-service.
                Their lick-service is reserved for the Turks.
                Four things denialist Turks do when they are confronted with facts:

                I. They change the subject [SIZE="1"](e.g. they copy/paste tons of garbage to divert attention).[/SIZE]
                II. They project [SIZE="1"](e.g. they replace "Turk" with "Armenian" and vice versa and they regurgitate Armenian history).[/SIZE]
                III. They offend [SIZE="1"](e.g. they cuss, threaten and/or mock).[/SIZE]
                IV. They shut up and say nothing.

                [URL="http://b.imagehost.org/download/0689/azerbaijan-real-fake-absurd.pdf"][COLOR="Red"]A country named Azerbaijan north of the Arax River [B]NEVER[/B] existed before 1918[/COLOR][/URL]

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by ATSIZ
                  Armenians say themselves not armenian ;"Hay".so they say Hayesdan for so-called Armenian land.Today's Armen?a or Armenian's words' underlying Armen or Armenia words means "UPWARD COUNTRY" in old persian language.

                  we can easily understand these historical knowledge says us "Armen" name is not a nation's name but a land's name...



                  Also this land does not belong you.because of not having a rooted culture you couldn't give this land your real name"hay"

                  So what you're saying is that Armenians can have no claim to Armenia because the proper name for Armenians is of course Hayk, at least in the Armenian language?

                  Ok, so a place called Turkey and a people know as the Turks did not exist prior to 1923 because were they were called Ottomans, so by your reasoning, they cannot have claims to former Ottoman lands.

                  The Hayk (from the people of Hayk, the originator of our nation)were called Armenians by others because we had a leader named Armen who the Persians fought a war with a recognized to be our king. The area where the Persians recognized where we lived, the domain of Armen (which Armenians call "Hayastan" then and now), was located in what is today eastern Turkey.

                  Convoluted reasoning and a game of semantics.

                  In the US we call your nation Turkey although you recognize it is Turkiye
                  THe Croatias call themsleves the Hrav, the Georgians call their nation Sakartvelo, etc.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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                  • #19
                    Uh oh, those pesky Dhimmis

                    IN TURKEY LANDS ARE PURCHASED BY FOREIGNERS, RAHSAN ECEVIT

                    Anatolian Times, Turkey
                    June 14 2006

                    ANKARA - "Lands are purchased by foreigners rapidly following
                    permission by (Turkish) authorities," Rahsan Ecevit, wife of former
                    PM Bulent Ecevit affirmed on Tuesday.

                    Speaking to reporters at a press conference, Rahsan Ecevit said 272,5
                    million square meters of land and property were purchased by 52,818
                    foreigners before April 15th, 2005.

                    "Apart from those, Turkish citizens and companies purchased lands and
                    areas rich in mineral ore on behalf of foreigners," Ecevit defended,
                    adding that, "Greek and Armenian lobbies are behind the purchase of
                    territories in Turkey".

                    Rahsan Ecevit said Turkish farmers could not produce and forced to sell
                    their lands because of decisions made for the sake of EU membership."

                    Ecevit said Jews living in the United States purchased (in the past)
                    lands in Palestine for years and said "this is Israel (of today)".

                    "Israel is getting prepared to play the same trick in GAP region
                    (southeastern Turkey) today. It has been stated that Israelis did not
                    purchase any land in the GAP region, but the web page of the Title &
                    Deeds DG and Government Office, where cadastral records are kept,
                    were blackened out" Ms. Ecevit reaffirmed.

                    "Israelis purchased most of this land through Turkish citizens of
                    Jewish origin ," Rahsan Ecevit said, indicating "sale of lands also
                    covers regions with strategic importance. For instance Israelis
                    purchased 4,000 ha. of land near Konya Military Airport."
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by ATSIZ
                      Yes you are right "Hay".So Armenian lobby has been studying in France as hard as they can do and France accepts all request of your Diaspora.

                      Accept MY HEARTIES!
                      YOU ARE UNDER AN OBLIGATION FOR every thing yoU have now AGA?NST EUROPE AND RUSSIA

                      has your so called Armeni land still been defended by Russia_?
                      Gunduz Aktan, is that you again?
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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