How do you expect people to trust you ?

[NickyMartin]

Approximately there are only 1 or 2 truths in 100 sentences of Armenian posts.
How do you expect people to believe you.
If you are sincere , be honest and respectful for your deaths.
When people see a lie , everthing will be stamped as a lie.
If you go on this way, your efforts will result in nothing ...
This site is full of hate and insults

[HayerMiacek]

Is this also a lie?

______________________________________________

INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GENOCIDE SCHOLARS





President

Israel Charny (Israel)



First Vice-President

Gregory H. Stanton (USA)



Second Vice-President

Linda Melvern (UK)



Secretary-Treasurer

Steven Jacobs (USA)







June 13, 2005





Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan

TC Easbakanlik

Bakanlikir

Ankara, Turkey



FAX: 90 312 417 0476



Dear Prime Minister Erdogan:



We are writing you this open letter in response to your call for an “impartial study by historians” concerning the fate of the Armenian people in the Ottoman Empire during World War I.



We represent the major body of scholars who study genocide in North America and Europe. We are concerned that in calling for an impartial study of the Armenian Genocide you may not be fully aware of the extent of the scholarly and intellectual record on the Armenian Genocide and how this event conforms to the definition of the United Nations Genocide Convention. We want to underscore that it is not just Armenians who are affirming the Armenian Genocide but it is the overwhelming opinion of scholars who study genocide: hundreds of independent scholars, who have no affiliations with governments, and whose work spans many countries and nationalities and the course of decades. The scholarly evidence reveals the following:



On April 24, 1915, under cover of World War I, the Young Turk government of the Ottoman Empire began a systematic genocide of its Armenian citizens – an unarmed Christian minority population. More than a million Armenians were exterminated through direct killing, starvation, torture, and forced death marches. The rest of the Armenian population fled into permanent exile. Thus an ancient civilization was expunged from its homeland of 2,500 years.



The Armenian Genocide was the most well-known human rights issue of its time and was reported regularly in newspapers across the United States and Europe. The Armenian Genocide is abundantly documented by thousands of official records of the United States and nations around the world including Turkey’s wartime allies Germany, Austria and Hungary, by Ottoman court-martial records, by eyewitness accounts of missionaries and diplomats, by the testimony of survivors, and by decades of historical scholarship.



The Armenian Genocide is corroborated by the international scholarly, legal, and human rights community:

1) Polish jurist Raphael Lemkin, when he coined the term genocide in 1944, cited the Turkish extermination of the Armenians and the Nazi extermination of the Jews as defining examples of what he meant by genocide.

2) The killings of the Armenians is genocide as defined by the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

3) In 1997 the International Association of Genocide Scholars, an organization of the world’s foremost experts on genocide, unanimously passed a formal resolution affirming the Armenian Genocide.

4) 126 leading scholars of the Holocaust including Elie Wiesel and Yehuda Bauer placed a statement in the New York Times in June 2000 declaring the “incontestable fact of the Armenian Genocide” and urging western democracies to acknowledge it.

5) The Institute on the Holocaust and Genocide (Jerusalem), and the Institute for the Study of Genocide (NYC) have affirmed the historical fact of the Armenian Genocide.

6) Leading texts in the international law of genocide such as William A. Schabas’s Genocide in International Law (Cambridge University Press, 2000) cite the Armenian Genocide as a precursor to the Holocaust and as a precedent for the law on crimes against humanity.



We note that there may be differing interpretations of genocide—how and why the Armenian Genocide happened, but to deny its factual and moral reality as genocide is not to engage in scholarship but in propaganda and efforts to absolve the perpetrator, blame the victims, and erase the ethical meaning of this history.



We would also note that scholars who advise your government and who are affiliated in other ways with your state-controlled institutions are not impartial. Such so-called “scholars” work to serve the agenda of historical and moral obfuscation when they advise you and the Turkish Parliament on how to deny the Armenian Genocide. In preventing a conference on the Armenian Genocide from taking place at Bogacizi University in Istanbul on May 25, your government revealed its aversion to academic and intellectual freedom—a fundamental condition of democratic society.



We believe that it is clearly in the interest of the Turkish people and their future as a proud and equal participants in international, democratic discourse to acknowledge the responsibility of a previous government for the genocide of the Armenian people, just as the German government and people have done in the case of the Holocaust.

[Hovik]

Approximately there are only 1 or 2 truths in 100 sentences of Armenian posts.
How do you expect people to believe you.
If you are sincere , be honest and respectful for your deaths.
When people see a lie , everthing will be stamped as a lie.
If you go on this way, your efforts will result in nothing ...
This site is full of hate and lies

How do you expect people to respect your opinion when you don't give an example of anything you are talking about? It sounds like you already have your mind made up about the Genocide, so what are you doing here?

Go talk to the 100s of foreign eyewitnessess, your German allies, the archivists of the United States, the american association of Genocide Scholars and others about "truths". Tell them they are liars... you'll get far won't you.

[Hovik]

I love this one:

German Parliment Deals Fatal Blow to Turkish Denial of the Armenian Genocide:

http://www.armeniangenocide.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1950&postcount=1

They were your ALLIES and ACCOMPLICES in the Genocide of Armenians, what benefit would they have to self-incriminate? (I'd like Turks to take a stab at answering this question)

[NickyMartin]

How do you expect people to respect your opinion when you don't give an example of anything you are talking about? It sounds like you already have your mind made up about the Genocide, so what are you doing here?

Go talk to the 100s of foreign eyewitnessess, your German allies, the archivists of the United States, the american association of Genocide Scholars and others about "truths". Tell them they are liars... you'll get far won't you.

Turks birth to snakes?
A- True
B- Lie
C- Insult
D-Inferiorty complex

My mail is not about genocide.
It is about the hate and insults about Turks.
Your site makes people denialist

[Hovik]

Turks birth to snakes?
A- True
B- Lie
C- Insult
D-Inferiorty complex

You didn't answer to my post. Do this and then I'll answer to this...

[NickyMartin]

Lie

[Hovik]

Lie

Ok, as long as you refuse to answer my post, I refuse to engage in any form of dialog with you. I wouldn't recommend that anyone else does either...Goodbye.

[kerkuk_kurdista]

NickyMartin, either you have spent too much time with Turks or you just don't know anything about the bloody history of Turkey.

How can you come on a forum and accuse brutalized people of being racists and haters? There is some hate, yes. But this cannot be compared to Turkish forums, they do a hate test before you enter their forum and you have to pass it before you can activate your account.

This site is one of the best I visited and there are a lot of goog people here, and they are fighting for the recognition of one of the inhuman crimes in the history of mankind. Too bad my people participated in this terror too.....

[imported_Hellektor]

This site is one of the best I visited and there are a lot of goog people here, and they are fighting for the recognition of one of the inhuman crimes in the history of mankind. Too bad my people participated in this terror too.....

That's what separates man from monster.