The city of Kerkuk

[turque]

Bell
this guy does not know what he's talking about.
Average Turk and Kurd lives peacefully togather, and dont have any problem with their kurdishness or turkishness. I know that there are lots of Turkish businessmen/women from Turkey doing business in Erbil and Kerkuk.
This guy either dont know locals of Erbil or Kerkuk/Musul or is not Kurd at all just thinks that he's provoking Turks in here(actually entertaining us).

Being "liberated" by Kurds is, for non-Kurdish peoples, the equivalent of extermination. That there are a still substantial numbers of non-Kurds currently living in Kirkuk is probably mostly due to the fact that it is still so unsettled everywhere else in Iraq that they have nowhere else to move to.
I'm sure that the current batch of "liberators" are working hard towards that 100% Kurdish city.

[kerkuk_kurdista]

Being "liberated" by Kurds is, for non-Kurdish peoples, the equivalent of extermination. That there are a still substantial numbers of non-Kurds currently living in Kirkuk is probably mostly due to the fact that it is still so unsettled everywhere else in Iraq that they have nowhere else to move to.
I'm sure that the current batch of "liberators" are working hard towards that 100% Kurdish city.

It's not 100% Kurdish, it is a historical Kurdish city.

And what do you understand with "extermination"?
The Turkmens and Arabs there were helping Peshmerga when they entered the city, go learn history for gods sakes.
Why didn't they resist then, tell me.
The non-Kurds in Kirkuk are very proud that they are more safe than most of other Non-Kurds in iraq.
Ill hint you to just go look for articles how many Non-Kurds have started to move their homes to the Kurdish safe haven.
Do you want me to show you a video of Turkmens marching a nationalist protest of Kurdistan? They speak Turkmen as we said before.

[imported_Hellektor]

Ignorance is Arrogance

Historically speaking, it was first Arabic, then Turkish and now Kurdish

The total ignorance and historical waste fabrication of the Turks is nauseating.
Kirkuk was called Karka Beit Sluk (Karkha Beit Slukh) in Assyrian historical records.
But for Turks, history starts with Seljuk or Arab invasions and the world was covered with water before that.

I'll definitely eat my head.

[imported_RUDO]

For Panturkists ALL WORLD IS TURKS'

[Joseph]

For Panturkists ALL WORLD IS TURKS'

FOOD FOR THOUGHT


Turkey lost in space

6/3/2006
KurdishMedia.com - By Pir Aso Yarsani


In contrast to the rest of historical Europe and regretfully despite a
constant physical presence in Europe, Turks still have not learned from a
democratic Europe how to move forward on time by acting accordingly and
properly. However, the time when Turks behaved like brutal ravagers more or
less are passed by and now they should wake up and realize that they are
inevitably enforced to encounter a totally different world of mentality.

It's a great shame when a third of Turkey's population has Kurdish origin
and at the same time the racial, awful and bloody official policy of denial
is what Turkey stands for and represents today. This is thus another
indication of hostility towards Kurds embedded in Turkish mentality. Turks
shamefully are not even tolerating a sovereign country which is
internationally recognized as a legitimate body like Iraq which is a federal
state in which bilingualism among other components is lawful and one of its
main democratic achievements. It has obvious blinded Turks who don't want
see Kurds at all, wherever they might be now. But in accordance with the
Turkish political, financial and military actions it's up to the Kurdish
leadership to respond powerfully and accordingly by acting both tactically
and also strategically. Kurds should know that they are more powerful than
Turks if they are forced to show what they are stand for. It's really a
challengeable task for Kurds to continue with their peaceful policy despite
the Turkish constantly unreasonable threats.

However, while the rest of the Europe is continuously and progressively
shining and dynamically changes its policy towards improving the condition
of its citizens, Turks are remained unchanged and pretend nothing else is
changed. Turks should even for the first time ask themselves questions as:

a) Which folk group was first in that poor part of the world wasn't the
Kurdish people?

b) How long do we need to continue our brutal ill-actions that we have
imposed on 20 million Kurds and even some brave open-minded and intellectual
Turks?

c) Have we achieved something good at all?

d) Despite our brutality have we been able to dampen the Kurdish
nationalistic inspiration or on the contrary we've raised their inspiration
even more?

e) When do we come to realize that Kurds have showed the world that they are
a peaceful people and never ever give up their Human rights?

f) Didn't the previous powerful and huge states like the Soviet Union and
the Yugoslavia gave birth to the many new countries that emerged from the
ashes of the same mentality that we have imposed on Kurds?

g) Are we capable of declaring war on Kurds, if so, what are the
consequences when we're surrounded by Kurds from all parts of the country?

h) After so many years of brutality, what other nations think about us, how
they really evaluate us as a people with ca 1000 years experience of
governing (read misgoverning)?

i) What happens if all Kurds unite themselves against us, can we then afford
to resist such a huge pressure?

j) Do we want or need to become a part of the civilized world, the European
Europe, if not, are we capable to feed 70 million people alone in this
competitive world that is more and more will be governed and facilitated by
the European Union?

k) Instead of the policy of aggression, why do not trying to respect Kurds,
isn't that better to strengthen the internal bound or brotherhood inside
Turkey?

l) How many Kurds are living in big cities like Istanbul and Ankara that are
not known for us because they have deliberately decided to live seamlessly
and invisibly from the sight of such police state but they are actually
proud Kurds and will react when the Kurdish nation unanimously call for
action, so why not recognize and respect them, otherwise they become our
invisible enemies that we can not coup with.?

However, the uncivilized Turkish behavior has only strengthened the Kurdish
bound or linkage and at the same time shown the world that Turks are lost in
the space. Turkey is not anymore important for the USA, because there are
undeniably plenty of other countries that can serve and assist the USA as
Turkey did during the cold war. Instead for being a political tool or act as
fools, it's much fruitful and beneficial for Turks to respect other citizens
and start to build a new respectful relationship by which Kurds gain their
equal rights with fellow Turks. A new relationship by which the atmosphere
of brotherhood will replace the current animosity which has damaged Turkey
and unfortunately have been mainly or entirely felt and still feels by
Kurds. Turks that are not respecting and not tolerating even a few Kurdish
worlds in the new Iraqi passport is only a sign and indication of not
being-in-the-world of rationality and it only damages Turks not Kurds.

Considering the huge body of Kurds (read 40 millions) living inside and
outside Turkey, Turks should think and be prepare for facing unpleasant,
hatred and most importantly the uneconomically consequences. Finally, the
whole world knows that Turkey has no chance to compete equally with the
European Union and the question is this: will Turkey continue to remain
outside the civilized world or instead enjoy being-in-the-world is the
question which Turks should focus on and give an answer before Turkey parts
into pieces.

[ATSIZ]

For Panturkists ALL WORLD IS TURKS'

I do not know what makes you laughing but Panturkists are not in such a logical.
you think you know everything but really you know nothing.

shame

[Tongue]

I do not know what makes you laughing but Panturkists are not in such a logical.
you think you know everything but really you know nothing.

shame

What do YOU know about the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE should be the question.

[ATSIZ]

But for Turks, history starts with Seljuk or Arab invasions and the world was covered with water before that.

I'll definitely eat my head.

you do not have to eat your HEAD maybe one day you need.
yes you said right HISTORY STARTS WITH TURKS BUT NOT Seljuk
ı DO NOT SAY WORLD HISTORIANS PROVED

[ATSIZ]

What do YOU know about the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE should be the question.

This web site must be created for discussing about your claims and so called genocide.But everything EXCEPT GENOCİDE TOPİC HAS BEEN TALKED.I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THIS.

YOU HAVE DİFFERENT MISSIONS

AND I KNOW SO CALLED ARMENİAN GENOCİDE

SO CALLED ARMENİAN GENOCİDE=TURK MASSACRE

[Gavur]

How can we be subject to Genocide and massacre you at the same time?
Einstein!