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  • #21
    Three names I can give is Abdullah Gül, İsmail Cem and if possible Ahmet Necdet Sezer.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by elendil
      Three names I can give is Abdullah Gül, ?smail Cem and if possible Ahmet Necdet Sezer.

      I imagine the ultra-nationalists do well in the next elections with all that is going on.
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      • #23
        You see how a little force by a few thousand makes everyone toe the line in Turkey because they been conditioned by force and threat of force for at least 84 years.
        "All truth passes through three stages:
        First, it is ridiculed;
        Second, it is violently opposed; and
        Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

        Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Gavur
          You see how a little force by a few thousand makes everyone toe the line in Turkey because they been conditioned by force and threat of force for at least 84 years.
          Isn't it the same in many countries Gavur? Isn't it the same in tiny Armenia? But I guess not beacuse they have a perfect democracy

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          • #25
            In Armenia?
            this Turkish way of lacking defensiveness really getting tiring.
            Armenia has been independemt how long? in Armenia it is different which is another subject you are welcome to start a thread if so interested.
            anyways these few thousand Turkish scums bully the publis even the the structures and institutions of the govermant by violence and then claim to be of the public and thats a sick misreprasantation to keep people from waking up from the brainwashing of 20th century .Again a typical brainwashed response in line with a big lie that anything not inline with the Turkish doctrine of history past and present is anti-turkish its just amusing!
            "All truth passes through three stages:
            First, it is ridiculed;
            Second, it is violently opposed; and
            Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

            Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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            • #26
              To answer your Q
              It may have been or being practiced at differing measurments in other countries but I notice Turkey because this phenomina has and is effected my people.
              "All truth passes through three stages:
              First, it is ridiculed;
              Second, it is violently opposed; and
              Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

              Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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              • #27
                Gavur, you really have a sick mind to call people brainwashed for a normal generalization. Why are you getting angry? You have this retarded view that the whole world is civilized except the Turks who are brainwashed, and stupid and etc. etc. (whatever cliché hate words you have all masterd very well) It does not matter if Armenia is a new republic. The fate of most countries on this planet is usually in tha hands of an elite minority no matter how democratic that country claims to be and no matter how old that so called democracy is. That is what I was trying to point out but hey, for saying that I guess I scratched that scab on your itchy butt didnt I. Grow up dude and except the fact the whole world is some phuqqed up place and Armenians arent one the brightest contenders in it either.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Gavur
                  In Armenia?
                  this Turkish way of lacking defensiveness really getting tiring.
                  Armenia has been independemt how long? in Armenia it is different which is another subject you are welcome to start a thread if so interested.
                  anyways these few thousand Turkish scums bully the publis even the the structures and institutions of the govermant by violence and then claim to be of the public and thats a sick misreprasantation to keep people from waking up from the brainwashing of 20th century .Again a typical brainwashed response in line with a big lie that anything not inline with the Turkish doctrine of history past and present is anti-turkish its just amusing!

                  The ulusalci
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by hitite
                    Isn't it the same in many countries Gavur? Isn't it the same in tiny Armenia? But I guess not beacuse they have a perfect democracy
                    Armenia has a long way to go but considering they were part of the Soviet Union have independent for only 15 years, and already been through a war, they are doing rather well (even more so when you compare them to the rest of the CIS). Whereas Turkey has been a "democracy" since 1923 but still have archaic laws such as "insulting Turkishness".
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by hitite
                      Gavur, you really have a sick mind to call people brainwashed for a normal generalization. Why are you getting angry? You have this retarded view that the whole world is civilized except the Turks who are brainwashed, and stupid and etc. etc. (whatever cliché hate words you have all masterd very well) It does not matter if Armenia is a new republic. The fate of most countries on this planet is usually in tha hands of an elite minority no matter how democratic that country claims to be and no matter how old that so called democracy is. That is what I was trying to point out but hey, for saying that I guess I scratched that scab on your itchy butt didnt I. Grow up dude and except the fact the whole world is some phuqqed up place and Armenians arent one the brightest contenders in it either.

                      O.k I'm calmer now, the guy always in the middle gets the punch I'm sorry if i knowingly hurt your feeling hitayt.
                      It seems to me you are partially wrong and catagorically false about the equalization/generalization ploy used by your govermatt , the only reason this position gives you'll an supposed air of debatable reasonability is because your alternitive is the genocidal extreemists your state is allowing to produce.
                      So excuse me but since your position mimics your states position it has no credibilty in our or our govermatts eyes.
                      In Genocide and contiuance of denial of Genocide has and cannot have a middle ground you must digest this fact otherwise your wasting your time here.
                      "All truth passes through three stages:
                      First, it is ridiculed;
                      Second, it is violently opposed; and
                      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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