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    Before you read the following passage, please read and compare.

    I have am currently working on a financing for a project in the Turks & Caicos Islands, have been there several times and know the history, culture, politics of the Caribbean quite well.


    "HOW WAS TURKS & CAICOS ISLANDS NAME DERIVED?

    The popular story is the name Turks being derived after the indigenous Turk's Head "fez" cactus, pictured on the left, and the name Caicos, a Lucayan term "caya hico," meaning string of islands.

    A more romantic, origin of the name is a reflection of the Islands' pirate history, when 17th and 18th century pirates used the islands as hideouts and preyed upon the passing Spanish treasure ships bound for Europe. The term "Turk" for a pirate stemmed two centuries earlier when the Ottoman Empire dominated the Mediterranean and Turkish corsairs harried European Atlantic shipping, thus translated "Turks" Islands becomes "Pirate" Islands!

    The non-intuitive nom is often mispelt as Turks and Cacos and Turk and Caicos Islands. We have even see an occasional envelope arrive with the address 'Turks and Tacos' ! And speaking of mail, some mail arriving here has been branded with a trail of postmarks showing its trip here via a small detour to Turkey. "

    Now read the nationalist Turkish version. I guess he subscribes to Ataturks "SUN THEORY"


    Turkish Daily News: Explore the latest Turkish news, including Turkey news, politics, political updates, and current affairs. Council of Foreign Ministers of Turkic States Organization Convened - 17:59


    Turks discovered America first

    Wednesday, July 5, 2006



    Historian Yurtsever says he has broken the codes of Ottoman Admiral Piri Reis and claims Turks founded a country in the Americas
    ANKARA – Turkish Daily News

    **Historian Cezmi Yurtsever said he had*broken the secret codes of a map belonging to*16th century Ottoman Admiral Piri Reis and claimed that the Turks had discovered America 25 years before Christopher Colombus, establishing a government in the New World.

    **Speaking at a press conference he said he thought boats drawn on the map east of Cuba could have been a code for something and upon investigation, ascertained*that there was a country called Turks and Caicos in the vicinity.

    **?It is no coincidence that a country with the word 'Turk' in its name*exists*there. As Piri Reis was drawing*up*his map in 1513, he was using both Colombus' map and certain information that only he knew. Hundreds of years later, we see a country called Turks and Caicos.? He also said Caicos sounded similar to "kay?k" (boat) in Turkish, and referred*to the country as "Turks and Boats" for the duration of his press conference.*

    **?Further research showed that the capital of the country of Turks and Boats, the Grand Turk, was the way Europeans used to describe Ottoman Sultan Süleyman. What's even more surprising is the fact that in 1869, the Grand Turk's flag featured the Ottoman crescent and three stars. All these facts show that the state of Turks and Boats, which is still part of the British Commonwealth, was founded by Turks loyal to the Ottoman Empire.?

    **Yurtsever said Turks arrived in America 25 years before Colombus, claiming that the Ottoman symbol featured in the flag was removed in 1873.

    **He said world history needs to be reassessed after the codes of Piri Reis's map are further analyzed.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    Originally posted by Joseph


    Before you read the following passage, please read and compare.

    I have am currently working on a financing for a project in the Turks & Caicos Islands, have been there several times and know the history, culture, politics of the Caribbean quite well.


    "HOW WAS TURKS & CAICOS ISLANDS NAME DERIVED?

    The popular story is the name Turks being derived after the indigenous Turk's Head "fez" cactus, pictured on the left, and the name Caicos, a Lucayan term "caya hico," meaning string of islands.

    A more romantic, origin of the name is a reflection of the Islands' pirate history, when 17th and 18th century pirates used the islands as hideouts and preyed upon the passing Spanish treasure ships bound for Europe. The term "Turk" for a pirate stemmed two centuries earlier when the Ottoman Empire dominated the Mediterranean and Turkish corsairs harried European Atlantic shipping, thus translated "Turks" Islands becomes "Pirate" Islands!

    The non-intuitive nom is often mispelt as Turks and Cacos and Turk and Caicos Islands. We have even see an occasional envelope arrive with the address 'Turks and Tacos' ! And speaking of mail, some mail arriving here has been branded with a trail of postmarks showing its trip here via a small detour to Turkey. "

    Now read the nationalist Turkish version. I guess he subscribes to Ataturks "SUN THEORY"


    Turkish Daily News: Explore the latest Turkish news, including Turkey news, politics, political updates, and current affairs. Council of Foreign Ministers of Turkic States Organization Convened - 17:59


    Turks discovered America first

    Wednesday, July 5, 2006



    Historian Yurtsever says he has broken the codes of Ottoman Admiral Piri Reis and claims Turks founded a country in the Americas
    ANKARA – Turkish Daily News

    **Historian Cezmi Yurtsever said he had*broken the secret codes of a map belonging to*16th century Ottoman Admiral Piri Reis and claimed that the Turks had discovered America 25 years before Christopher Colombus, establishing a government in the New World.

    **Speaking at a press conference he said he thought boats drawn on the map east of Cuba could have been a code for something and upon investigation, ascertained*that there was a country called Turks and Caicos in the vicinity.

    **?It is no coincidence that a country with the word 'Turk' in its name*exists*there. As Piri Reis was drawing*up*his map in 1513, he was using both Colombus' map and certain information that only he knew. Hundreds of years later, we see a country called Turks and Caicos.? He also said Caicos sounded similar to "kay?k" (boat) in Turkish, and referred*to the country as "Turks and Boats" for the duration of his press conference.*

    **?Further research showed that the capital of the country of Turks and Boats, the Grand Turk, was the way Europeans used to describe Ottoman Sultan Süleyman. What's even more surprising is the fact that in 1869, the Grand Turk's flag featured the Ottoman crescent and three stars. All these facts show that the state of Turks and Boats, which is still part of the British Commonwealth, was founded by Turks loyal to the Ottoman Empire.?

    **Yurtsever said Turks arrived in America 25 years before Colombus, claiming that the Ottoman symbol featured in the flag was removed in 1873.

    **He said world history needs to be reassessed after the codes of Piri Reis's map are further analyzed.
    When I was a teenager, an author called Erich von Daeniken was quite populer with his "extraterrestrials created this world etc etc..." theories, and his book "Chariots of Gods" became a bestseller in several countries. In that book, he claimed that Piri Reis received some "extraterrestrial help" while producing his famous map in 1513. Not surprisingly, he made the same claim regarding the Keops Pyramide, Nazca Drawings in Peru, Stonehenge, to name a few..

    The discovery of the American continent predates the creation of this map, but as far as I know Piri Reis' map really shows several details of the American coastline which had not been discovered as of 1513. I presume that either the date of the map had been tampered with, or the authentic lines of the map. But who knows? Maybe there are little green guys among us

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      Originally posted by Vogelgrippe
      When I was a teenager, an author called Erich von Daeniken was quite populer with his "extraterrestrials created this world etc etc..." theories, and his book "Chariots of Gods" became a bestseller in several countries. In that book, he claimed that Piri Reis received some "extraterrestrial help" while producing his famous map in 1513. Not surprisingly, he made the same claim regarding the Keops Pyramide, Nazca Drawings in Peru, Stonehenge, to name a few..

      The discovery of the American continent predates the creation of this map, but as far as I know Piri Reis' map really shows several details of the American coastline which had not been discovered as of 1513. I presume that either the date of the map had been tampered with, or the authentic lines of the map. But who knows? Maybe there are little green guys among us

      I read an interesting book about the Basques a few years ago. Apparently they had set up settlements in both present day Nova Scotia and Newfoundland hundreds of years before the Vikings (and we know the Vikings "discovery" pre-dates Columbus). Traces of the settlements are being studied by archeologists. Apparently, they fished off the coasts of North America as the stocks of codfish were running low in Europe. They preffered to keep the plentiful fishing off of N. America a secret from other Europeans.

      As far as litte green men being among us, maybe W is one them.
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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