Kemal Kerincsiz strikes again

[Joseph]

Kemal Kerincsiz and his entourage of thugs violently disrupted yesterday
a panel
organized by TESEV (on "Confronting Forced Migration: Rebuilding
Citizenship in
Turkey after Internal Displacement") and physically attacked the
organizers and the
participants. Among the assailants was Muammer Kocadag, who had slapped
an old woman in the face during Catholicos Karekin II's visit to
Heybeliada.
For a picture gallery of the recent events where Kerincsiz & co have engaged
in similar acts of violence, see the link below:

http://www.radikal.com.tr/haber.php?haberno=192258

[Vogelgrippe]

Street-smart misspellings #1

Kemal Kerincsiz and his entourage of thugs violently disrupted yesterday
a panel
organized by TESEV (on "Confronting Forced Migration: Rebuilding
Citizenship in
Turkey after Internal Displacement") and physically attacked the
organizers and the
participants. Among the assailants was Muammer Kocadag, who had slapped
an old woman in the face during Catholicos Karekin II's visit to
Heybeliada.
For a picture gallery of the recent events where Kerincsiz & co have engaged
in similar acts of violence, see the link below:

http://www.radikal.com.tr/haber.php?haberno=192258

This Kemiksiz guy certainly is an idiom! Why an idiom? Because if I replace the letter 'm' at the end with a 't', he will probably sue me too
God knows I don't want that

[phantom]

This Kemiksiz guy certainly is an idiom! Why an idiom? Because if I replace the letter 'm' at the end with a 't', he will probably sue me too
God knows I don't want that

Unfortunately, he's not alone, because surely, nobody acting alone can have this much power.

[Vogelgrippe]

Unfortunately, he's not alone, because surely, nobody acting alone can have this much power.

Surely, he is a pawn of a vague coalition of ultranationalists and chauvinists. While I strongly disapprove of his political views, he at least uses a legal & quasi civilised way of pursuing his own interests.

Some of is mobby supporters, unfortunately, are not even capable of acting in a civilised fashion.

[Joseph]

Surely, he is a pawn of a vague coalition of ultranationalists and chauvinists. While I strongly disapprove of his political views, he at least uses a legal & quasi civilised way of pursuing his own interests.

Some of is mobby supporters, unfortunately, are not even capable of acting in a civilised fashion.

I wonder if he's connected to Bahceli or is he orginally an Islamist/Nationalist in Erdogans party. I'm not usually a believer in conspiracy theories but his attempted prosecutions seem so blatantly used to make Turkey look bad in the eyes of Europe, he seems to be part of plan to scuttle the EU talks.

[Gavur]

Theres a rumor that Yoruks want to be recognized as a majority in Turkey.

[Gavur]

He is definetly connected to bahceli the idiot.
bahceli's aim is to be called kara-bahceli when he takes over the goverment
legally of course.
Why is Bakkal Ramazan everywhere our legal expert Kericsiz iz?

[Vogelgrippe]

Theres a rumor that Yoruks want to be recognized as a majority in Turkey.

Allah iyiliğini versin Gavur God knows last thing we needed was a 'Yoruk' majority, I guess you quoted that from Bahceli's list of nonsense.

I didn't get what you meant with Bakkal Ramazan though...

[Gavur]

Ramazan bakkal is every where kerincsoz goes he's one of the hanchman and likes to slap woman around to show he is right

[Joseph]

Background on Ramazan Bakkal

Turkish author writes on hatred in Turkish-Armenian relations


Hatred
By Ferhat Kentel
Thursday, February 10, 2005

http://www.gazetem.net/ferhatkentel.asp

Translated by the Zoryan Institute

I will describe an incident on Saturday, February 5, at a conference about the “Armenian Problem,” which took place at the Yapi Kredi Cultural Center, organized by the Helsinki Citizens’ Committee. The purpose of the conference was to find means to solve the “problem”, to make it normal, or to discuss it as civilized human beings. Historian Mete Tunçay and Fethiye Çetin, the author-lawyer whose biographical book My Grandmother was recently published, gave speeches.

Mete Tuncay explained the various theses, writings and meetings concerning Turkey and the Armenian Question in recent years. He spoke very calmly…and then he gave his personal opinion about the subject, which is as follows: While the Turkish Republic completely rejects the negative heritage of the Ottoman Empire, it adopts and owns the Ottoman’s stance in the Armenian Genocide issue, mainly because of the new republic founders’ gains of Armenians’ property and possessions, as well as their concern in preserving their new-found wealth. It is meaningless to debate whether a genocide took place or not, and equally meaningless for the parliaments of other countries to recognize the genocide, when neither Armenia nor Turkey are ready to discuss this subject.

Fethiye Çetin spoke about two different issues. First, she explained the continuing bias and discrimination against Armenians in the legal and education fields. Secondly, she expressed her feelings and Turkish Armenians’ feelings about the subject of her new book, her grandmother, who revealed just before she died that she was an Armenian rescued by a Turkish sergeant during the massacres. She also spoke very calmly…and she finished her remarks by expressing her hope that the ‘genocide’ discussions would be replaced by a bit of empathy for the Armenians’ sorrows.

Soon after Mete Tunçay began his speech, someone from the audience, who claimed to be an ‘historian’ and a member of Ayd?nlar Oca?? (“Society of Intellectuals”), interrupted Tunçay with remarks such as “you are wrong, it is not true.” Then, a second person, whose name we discovered afterwards to be Ramazan Bakkal began interrupting the speech. Mete Tunçay suggested that Bakkal should step forward and join the lines at the podium, but Bakkal preferred to sit in the audience and continue interrupting from there.

The tension in the conference hall began to increase. As the “corrections” and “warnings” of Bakkal became increasingly disruptive, the audience repeatedly requested Bakkal’s removal, so that they could follow the speakers. The Yapi Kredi security guards invited Bakkal to leave the hall and Bakkal started raging.

A brief background note. Apparently Bakkal is an “important person.” According to his own account, he is a former Turkish state radio producer, a founder of ASAM, a director of Turkish Public Community Committees and an editor of Strategic Analysis Magazine, that is, a rather “intellectual” person. That is why he felt he had the right to interrupt this conference. In addition, he has had another “heroic” incident recently. In December 2004, when EU Parliament’s President, Joseph Barrel, indicated his desire to meet Leyla Zana in Diyarbakir during a meeting organized by TOBB and IKV, Bakkal had similar actions and remarks, such as, “I will teach him a lesson that he deserves;” “I will not allow you to go to Diyarbakir;” “I will not allow division of Turkey.” Lots of swearing, pushing and shoving and being ejected by hotel security guards. (For more comments and two different interpretations of this incident, please visit www.bbp.org.tr, Funda Ozkan’s December 7, 2004 news item in the daily newspaper, Radikal: www.radikal.com.tr)

So Ramazan Bakkal is a professional and national “conference protester.” But perhaps due to the less professional conduct of the HYD conference security guards, Mr. Bakkal’s fists were more effective this time. As far as I could see, he managed to slap one woman in the audience, knock out another man trying to prevent him from attacking Tunçay, to hurl a large plastic sign at Tunçay, to hurl a bottle at a security guard. He gave an excellent performance…

Anyway, even though the security guards took him out of the conference room, he managed to come in again (escorted by a policeman somehow)…During the question period, he and another elderly person from the “Society of Intellectuals,” Ayd?nlar Oca??, had long tirades with statements like, “The Turkish nation is the most tolerant and understanding people but beware not to wear out their patience,” or “if you betray us, we will do the same again” and they did their duty of “warning….”

Some urban and modern ladies among the audience also complained to the conference speakers by asking, “Why do you bring up these subjects? What will you achieve? Don’t talk about it anymore, let’s forget about the past.”

At the end, despite the violent and disrespectful persons, despite the professional conference protesters’ actions and the tension created, despite the people who would have preferred if this conference had never taken place (I wonder why they came if they did not what the conference), the conference ended with prolonged applause.

The incidents that took place at this conference, the “EU Minority Report,” which was torn up during a previous presentation, indicates an extraordinary fear and paranoia. Paranoia, fed by fear, is now feeding a hatred which is spreading fear everywhere. Paranoid persons are so full of violence…and they justify their violence by saying “We won’t allow this in our homeland!” As if being patriotic is only in their domain…

“Violence” is not only in conferences but also in literature, even in simple poems that have become monuments of hatred built with words and letters. For example, schoolbooks or supplementary educational books prepared by Turkish Science Academy and Historical Society are full of racist literature. There is a poetry book in the 1998 edition of the Turkish Literature Series published by the National Education Ministry. The book, titled On This Road, is authored by a poet named Yunus Zeyrek. Here is an excerpt:

“The world did not witness such dishonor,
The Armenian from the Stone Age,
You have no good traits, the pen gets broken.
From wherever you look, the Armenian snake.”

Another excerpt:

“Tell me, are you human, Armenian?”
You are even more base that the Muscovite
Your Armenian seeds from Mount Nemrut.”

It is easy to understand that children or youth reading these textbooks get influenced. But it is difficult to grasp this: how can a person be this full of hatred against a people who have lived in the same country, mixed with the same blood, almost becoming one? What is worse, this hatred is blinding all other realities. This hatred is also covering up other opportunistic dirt. For example, an incident at Isparta Süleyman Demiral University (www.hurriyetim.com.tr, 4.1.2005). An academic from the History Faculty, Ahmet Halaço?lu, was alleged to sexually harass female students, as well as taking nude pictures of a female student and sending these photos to other faculty staff. When he was fired from the university, Halaço?lu claimed he was framed.

The daily Hurriyet had the following news item related to this issue: “She was like a man.” That’s because the female student whose pictures were taken by Halaço?lu walked and talked like a man and was unlikely to get involved with this…of course Hurriyet is more interested in the sensationalism of this news item.

The affair between this woman and the “photographer” and somehow “historian” does not interest us…but the method used by people in trouble, murderers or robbers is what is interesting…

Halaço?lu’s former lawyer portrays him as a loyal follower of Ataturk, progressive, modern, but also a God-fearing man who prays five times daily. According to the lawyer, Halaço?lu was framed in this scandal because his older brother has been working on the Armenian Question. His friends in Isparta also think that Halaço?lu is a victim because of his brother’s book, which claims that there was no Armenian Genocide, but on the contrary, a genocide of Turks by the Armenians (a book published by Turkish Historic Society in preparation for a war of historic documents against Armenians.)

This incident shows that it is a good defensive mechanism to bring out nationalist ideologies and policies. Nobody can easily blame you if you hide behind these ideas; and you can continue to do your evil deeds and spread your hatred from your sheltered refuge. So, I keep wondering: Are we going to see the days when people in trouble will try to defend themselves by saying “I am democratic, I believe in human rights?”

But we are living in changing times. People who dared not talk until today have started speaking out, that is, what is deemed “normal” is finally becoming normal, and the ones who had prevented the talking are now going through a crisis. They cannot tolerate hearing others talk, expressing sorrow…In order not to hear them talk, they keep saying “First, look at what they did to us,” meaning the Armenians, Americans, Russians, Greeks, Christians, the missionaries, Kurds, Jews, that is, everyone except themselves…They keep screaming louder, increasing the dosage of hatred, violence…and unfortunately, the violence is not only in words….However, it is also becoming obvious that the only thing they have left in their hands is their violence…