The Assassination of Hrant Dink

[1.5 million]

And please 1.5 million, you should not let your personal feelings about Bell (not belle) interfere with your way of thinking. If you do not like her/him tell them via pm not in a way so that others can see it too...don't you think it raises unecessary tension?

So its Ok for someone else to attempt to disparage me personally and influencing others' perceptions about me - claiming I am not "Armenian" or that Armenains shouldn't like me or that I am falsely stating my beliefs or what have you (that I am not capable of such etc)...etc but if I respond directly to address a rather inane statement (that is directly denigrating all Armenians) - claiming that there is no baisis for Armenians of today to have an emotional connection and a feeling of loss due to the Armenian Genocide(and then following this with a statement that Armenians have no special "ownership" of the Genocide - which I feel is an offensive and lacking in empathy type of statement...as well as a put down BTW - and I know this from past history with this individual) - And when I correctly counter such statements by pointing out the lack of emotional capability (or ability to understand how Armenians feel) of the person making such a baseless false and ignorant statement - it is I who am admonished? No I don't at all accept blame here. You cannot expect me to allow myself and my people to be attacked - even if it is done in such a way as to conceal the true intentions of the attacker. As it was certainly a personal attack against me and against all Armenians and neither will I let go uncountered.

[Jade]

Actually, if you look at my earlier posts, the reason I started talking to Bell in the first place was to defend your usage of the word "we"...Please read that post first...Then somehow the conversation took a different route with Bell...And since I had posted a post condeming them for a similar reason, stating it your right to use the word "we", shouldn't you take this as an indication that my statement applies to both of you? That I am trying to imply that actions from both parties that would cause tension in the forum should not be hapening?

[Helen]

So its Ok for someone else to attempt to disparage me personally and influencing others' perceptions about me - claiming I am not "Armenian" or that Armenains shouldn't like me or that I am falsely stating my beliefs or what have you (that I am not capable of such etc)...etc but if I respond directly to address a rather inane statement (that is directly denigrating all Armenians) - claiming that there is no baisis for Armenians of today to have an emotional connection and a feeling of loss due to the Armenian Genocide(and then following this with a statement that Armenians have no special "ownership" of the Genocide - which I feel is an offensive and lacking in empathy type of statement...as well as a put down BTW - and I know this from past history with this individual) - And when I correctly counter such statements by pointing out the lack of emotional capability (or ability to understand how Armenians feel) of the person making such a baseless false and ignorant statement - it is I who am admonished? No I don't at all accept blame here. You cannot expect me to allow myself and my people to be attacked - even if it is done in such a way as to conceal the true intentions of the attacker. As it was certainly a personal attack against me and against all Armenians and neither will I let go uncountered.

I agree...I felt insulted as well...Genocide has a great impact on my life as well as all Armenians I know...

[Jade]

I am NOT saying you shouldn't feel insulted...It is your decision to feel whatever you may like. If this is what you understood from this, then I apologize. All I am saying is that if Bell and 1.5 million have a personal problem with each other, they should handle it personally...Not by insulting each other in a place where all other members have access...Don't you agree that it raises unnecessary tension?

[Helen]

I am NOT saying you shouldn't feel insulted...It is your decision to feel whatever you may like. If this is what you understood from this, then I apologize. All I am saying is that if Bell and 1.5 million have a personal problem with each other, they should handle it personally...Not by insulting each other in a place where all other members have access...Don't you agree that it raises unnecessary tension?

Jade, I didn't mean you ...I didn't find your posts insulting.

[Jade]

OH... The last thing I want would be to insult or anger anyone

[1.5 million]

OH... The last thing I want would be to insult or anger anyone

In that we you are quite different then the majority of Turks (though not all of course) who post on this site...LOL

[Jade]

In that we you are quite different then the majority of Turks (though not all of course) who post on this site...LOL

Well...I am sort of trying to show everyone that not all Turks are the same
But yes, I suppose I am different...Maybe because I don't live in Turkey..Who knows?

[1.5 million]

Well...I am sort of trying to show everyone that not all Turks are the same
But yes, I suppose I am different...Maybe because I don't live in Turkey..Who knows?

Its quite a mistake (often made by many Armenians) to assume that all Turks are the same. Most Armenians don't have a good feel for who Turks are as individuals or understand their culture very well (and understand how much Turks and Armenians are alike in a great many ways...though different in many as well)...living side by side and amongst one another will do that you know...

[Jade]

Its quite a mistake (often made by many Armenians) to assume that all Turks are the same. Most Armenians don't have a good feel for who Turks are as individuals or understand their culture very well (and understand how much Turks and Armenians are alike in a great many ways...though different in many as well)...living side by side and amongst one another will do that you know...

believe me I had the exact same thoughts in mind when I joined this forum...maybe I cannot ensure amicable relations between all armenians and turks worldwide but I can atleast try and learn something about Armenians from people like you and perhaps try and teach something about the Turks like me in return...cultural exchange