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    Swiss accept Armenia 'genocide'

    BBC News, UK
    Dec 16 2003

    Fifteen countries have now recognise the killings as genocide
    The Swiss lower house of parliament has voted to describe the mass
    killings of Armenians during the last years of the Ottoman Empire as
    genocide.

    Armenian officials and community groups have welcomed the decision,
    but it is expected to upset Turkey.

    Turkey accepts that thousands were killed by Ottoman Empire forces in
    1915, but says figures are inflated and denies a planned genocide.

    Fifteen countries have now agreed to label the killings as genocide.

    They include France, Argentina and Russia.

    Justice

    The Armenian Ambassador to Switzerland, Zograb Mnatsakanyan, told
    Armenian Public TV the decision was the result of hard work by the
    Armenian community of Switzerland, according to Armenian news agency
    Arminfo.

    "The Swiss parliament has once again confirmed its adherence to human
    values and justice," he said.

    The co-chairman of the Armenian-Swiss Association, Sarkis Shaginyan,
    said the resolution was important for the entire Armenian people.

    Swiss Christian Democrat MP Dominique de Buman said a vote was needed
    to reflect historical truth.

    "Time cannot heal all wounds," he said.

    He added that he did not want to provoke a dispute with modern Turkey
    that some other MPs fear could arise from the result.

    French row

    The French National Assembly's decision to recognise the killings as
    genocide triggered a political and economic rift with Turkey in 2001.

    Ankara cancelled millions of dollars worth of defence deals with
    French companies.

    Switzerland and Turkey have had good relations in the past and the
    Swiss used to officially refer to the killings as the "tragic events
    having led to the death of an extremely high number of Armenians".

    But a planned visit to Turkey in October by the Swiss Foreign
    Minister, Micheline Calmy-Rey, was cancelled by the Turks in a
    dispute over the Armenian issue.

    The Swiss vote does not demand formal recognition by the government -
    it simply asks for the parliament's decision to be acknowledged and
    transmitted to Turkey.


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    What can I say other than that this a great victory for us Armenians and for truth and justice.

  • #2
    indeed it is.
    here's a toast for the next 15!
    cheers

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    • #3
      15 down, 100 plus 2 go.
      our work is cut out for us

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      • #4
        We're getting there.

        France, Greece, Sweden, Italy (I don't know which level of Government) and Switzerland have added their name to the list. If a few more influential European countries do the same, Turkey will be forced to act, as the denial of genocide may potentially be an obstacle to its (already unlikely) ascension to the European Union.

        Gamats gamats..

        Anyone heard the poem "Bidi Inas" by Vahan Tekeyan?

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        • #5
          Turkey will never make it into the EU because Greece, on their own will never let them (the countries must agree unanimously). We were not the only ones to be f!cked by the Turks.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Arvestaked Turkey will never make it into the EU because Greece, on their own will never let them (the countries must agree unanimously). We were not the only ones to be f!cked by the Turks.
            Also a good point..

            We should try to get in there before Turkey. I'd like to see them try THEN. moohahahahahahahaha

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Baron Dants We're getting there.

              France, Greece, Sweden, Italy (I don't know which level of Government) and Switzerland have added their name to the list. If a few more influential European countries do the same, Turkey will be forced to act, as the denial of genocide may potentially be an obstacle to its (already unlikely) ascension to the European Union.

              Gamats gamats..

              Anyone heard the poem "Bidi Inas" by Vahan Tekeyan?
              bidi inas ais ankam
              yev ansbar anhasomething...
              oh man I cant believe I dont remember it.
              it's been a long time though
              elementary...
              hey remindme!!!

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              • #8
                the day that turkey gets into the eu is the day that the whole EU and Armenia are xxxxed.

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                • #9
                  We are not fit for the EU in monetary terms right now... But if we one day enter the EU neither EU countries nor Armenia, nor any other country in the world should fear us (in military terms). But i do not know how Turkey's entrance to EU would affect Armenia anyway... Hmmm... Maybe if Turkey entered EU and Armenia were to try to enter also, Turkey might try to bar Armenia unless Armenia gave up Karabagh or something... Just some hypothesis... But maybe there wont be such problems by then...

                  I personally think that Turkey should not enter EU. As far as everyone is concerned EU membership is wanted for economic reasons. I believe Turkey could overcome economic problems on its own and keep trading with EU without membership.

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                  • #10
                    i personally dont think the eu would let turkey in. theyve massacred too many of the nations that are on the eu right now. its going to be greece stopping it once, then bulgaria, then....

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