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    Shar/comana/komana Armenians

    I AM FROM A VILLAGE NEAR SHAR VILLAGE. I AM CIRCASSIAN. I LIVED IN HADJIN FOR 2 YEARS WHEN I WAS A CHILD. I HEARD MANY THINGS ABOUT ARMENIANS OF HADJIN AND SHAR... OLD PEOPLE OF HADJIN TOLD" THAT ARMENIANS KILLED ALMOST EVERY MUSLIMS IN HADJIN, THEY COOKED MUSLIM BABIES AND GAVE TO THEIR MOTHERS TO EAT THEM... A FEW ARMENIANS CHANGED THEIR RELIGION AND SAVED THEIR LIFE..."
    MY OWN VILLAGE IS ABOUT 8 KMs TO SHAR. WE WERE FORCED TO LEAVE OUR NATIVE LAND IN 1890s.WE CAME HERE FOR A NEW LIFE. ARMENIANS HELPED US TO BUILD NEW HOUSES HERE.OUR MOSQUE IS AN ARMENIAN WORK TOO.WE HAD GOOD RELATIONS WITH ARMENIANS.OUR PEOPLE HAD ARMENIAN FRIENDS. THE TWO PEOPLE HAD NO PROBLEMS I HEARD. BUT WHEN FRENCH ARMY CAME SOME OF ARMENIAN GUERRILLAS BEGAN TO THREATEN OUR PEOPLE. BUT OUR ARMENIAN FRIENDS INFORMED US. WHEN STRUGGLE BEGAN BETWEEN TURKS AND ARMENIANS OUR PEOPLE WERE MOSTLY NEUTRAL. OUR MEN GUARDED THE VILLAGE BUT NOT ACTIVELY TAKE PART IN STRUGGLE. NEARLY 5 TO TEN PEOPLE TOOK PART IN STRUGGLE....OUR OLD PEOPLE TOLD THAT " ARMENIANS WERE TRUSTABLE. THEY WERE VISITING US AND WE WERE VISITING THEM. THEY WERE COMING TO OUR FEASTS. WE HAD FRIENDS. THEY INFORMED US WHEN ARMED ARMENIANS HAD BAD THOUGHTS...SOME ARMENIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN WERE HIDING WITH OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN STRUGGLE DAYS. THEY SAFELY WENT ABROAD... ARMENIAN CHILDREN WERE KILLED IN SHAR BY THROWING ONTO ROCKS...MOST OF THE SHAR PEOPLE WERE KILLED..."
    AS I UNDERSTAND NOONE CAN BOAST OF THAT DAYS...
    I WANT TO FIND PEOPLE OF SHAR BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY ARE PART OF THIS LAND'S HEART...
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    Sounds like you are from the region of Western Armenia (since 2800 years)be proud.
    "All truth passes through three stages:
    First, it is ridiculed;
    Second, it is violently opposed; and
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by dele View Post
      I AM FROM A VILLAGE NEAR SHAR VILLAGE. I AM CIRCASSIAN. I LIVED IN HADJIN FOR 2 YEARS WHEN I WAS A CHILD. I HEARD MANY THINGS ABOUT ARMENIANS OF HADJIN AND SHAR... OLD PEOPLE OF HADJIN TOLD" THAT ARMENIANS KILLED ALMOST EVERY MUSLIMS IN HADJIN, THEY COOKED MUSLIM BABIES AND GAVE TO THEIR MOTHERS TO EAT THEM... A FEW ARMENIANS CHANGED THEIR RELIGION AND SAVED THEIR LIFE..."
      MY OWN VILLAGE IS ABOUT 8 KMs TO SHAR. WE WERE FORCED TO LEAVE OUR NATIVE LAND IN 1890s.WE CAME HERE FOR A NEW LIFE. ARMENIANS HELPED US TO BUILD NEW HOUSES HERE.OUR MOSQUE IS AN ARMENIAN WORK TOO.WE HAD GOOD RELATIONS WITH ARMENIANS.OUR PEOPLE HAD ARMENIAN FRIENDS. THE TWO PEOPLE HAD NO PROBLEMS I HEARD. BUT WHEN FRENCH ARMY CAME SOME OF ARMENIAN GUERRILLAS BEGAN TO THREATEN OUR PEOPLE. BUT OUR ARMENIAN FRIENDS INFORMED US. WHEN STRUGGLE BEGAN BETWEEN TURKS AND ARMENIANS OUR PEOPLE WERE MOSTLY NEUTRAL. OUR MEN GUARDED THE VILLAGE BUT NOT ACTIVELY TAKE PART IN STRUGGLE. NEARLY 5 TO TEN PEOPLE TOOK PART IN STRUGGLE....OUR OLD PEOPLE TOLD THAT " ARMENIANS WERE TRUSTABLE. THEY WERE VISITING US AND WE WERE VISITING THEM. THEY WERE COMING TO OUR FEASTS. WE HAD FRIENDS. THEY INFORMED US WHEN ARMED ARMENIANS HAD BAD THOUGHTS...SOME ARMENIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN WERE HIDING WITH OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN STRUGGLE DAYS. THEY SAFELY WENT ABROAD... ARMENIAN CHILDREN WERE KILLED IN SHAR BY THROWING ONTO ROCKS...MOST OF THE SHAR PEOPLE WERE KILLED..."
      AS I UNDERSTAND NOONE CAN BOAST OF THAT DAYS...
      I WANT TO FIND PEOPLE OF SHAR BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY ARE PART OF THIS LAND'S HEART...

      So, what you're saying is:
      A. Armenians killed and ate every Muslim they could get their hands on.
      B. Armenians were loyal and got along well with thier neighbors...when they weren't canabalizing them.
      C. Armenians were slaughtered.
      D. Armenians went abroad peacefully.

      I'm very confused by your post.
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      • #4
        armenians

        I Meant Both Armenians And Turks Killed Violently Eachother. They Killed Eachother's Babies. Armenians Killed And Gave Them To Their Mothers Saying "eat Them", Turks Killed Them Throwing Onto Rocks. These are Violence And Have No Difference.

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        • #5
          Not All Armenians Safely Go Abroad, Most Of Them Were Killed. I Meant Armenians Who Were Hiding With Our Women And Children.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dele View Post
            I Meant Both Armenians And Turks Killed Violently Eachother. They Killed Eachother's Babies. Armenians Killed And Gave Them To Their Mothers Saying "eat Them", Turks Killed Them Throwing Onto Rocks. These are Violence And Have No Difference.
            You are a filthy pig. Your presence here is an insult just as your words (lies) are an insult to people who truly work for genuine reconciliation. Your ignorance sound awfully like the "blood libel" spread by anti-semites about the Jews, used by the ignorant masses to butcher "the other"; that they ate children and required their blood. You are in-league with racists and you probably don't even realize it because your thoughts have been supported and advocated by your country as "truth".

            The truth is:

            1. Turkey is a fascist and miliaristic nation paranoid of all its minorities
            2. Turks wish they still had an empire..as if having one is a good thing.
            3. Turks worship Ataturk, a cult of personality
            4. Turks are taught through rote memorization and are not allowed to display independent thinking...it may scare the herd

            I can add more if you like.
            General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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            • #7
              Most of what dele wrote is crap, but here is a nice website on Hadjin:

              Hadjin Turkey
              http://www.hadjin.com/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chinchilla View Post
                Most of what dele wrote is crap, but here is a nice website on Hadjin:

                http://www.hadjin.com/
                Great Website. I've posted it before but worth a second look:

                http://www.armeniangenocide.com/showthread.php?t=2509&page=2&highlight=hadjin
                General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chinchilla View Post
                  Most of what dele wrote is crap.[/url]
                  Maybe reading so much Turkish and Armenian crap , I can work my way around it and see there is useful information there. Which is.

                  1/ There are Circassians in Cilicia who still recognise their ancestry and maintain there separate identity.

                  NB: Circassians from the Caucasus who came to Cilicia in the 1880s and 1890were, unlike earlier migrations (who left for chauvanistic religious reasons after the Crimean war), victims of genocide because they were forcefully expelled from their homeland by the Russian empire for no justifiable reason.

                  2/
                  The present inhabitants of Hadjin seem to be an unpleasant lot. I'm not sure where they came from (Hadjin, like Zeitun, was, of course, an almost entirely Armenian town). Maybe they were from Macedonia, like the equally nasty lot that are now living in Zeitun.

                  3/
                  Present-day Circassians claim that during WW1 and its aftermath their ancestors didn't hold any particular animosity towards Armenians and didn't take part in any of the massacres. Whether that is true or not, is debatable.

                  4/
                  There is a memory amongst the Circassians that Armenian women and children hid in Circassian villages in Cilicia during the genocide.

                  5/ There is a memory amongst the Circassians that most of the Armenian population of Shar was massacred.

                  6/
                  The poster knows that Shar village lies on the site of the classical city of Comana.
                  Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                    You are a filthy pig. Your presence here is an insult just as your words (lies) are an insult to people who truly work for genuine reconciliation.
                    Unjustified! Didn't you see the " ". The bit you are getting so hot about, he placed in quotations because that is what he had been told by the present population of Hadjin.
                    Plenipotentiary meow!

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