Turkakan Khosaktsutsyun (Turkish Conversation)

[Sako]

Saco can,

you made a small mistake. ı finished university and ı work in tourizm business.

So THAT’S what işinde çalışıyorum means. Haha, I was wondering why something didn’t seem right. Is that it? I can’t believe I didn’t make anymore mistakes, lol. Or are you guys just being nice to me? I copied a few words from here and there, trying to put everything together, so I didn’t write every word myself. I’m not THAT good in Turkish yet … notice I used the word YET though, lol, I have to talk good Turkish with you one day. I hate seeing your frustration when you can’t understand me (and many others) sometimes.

you are a very good hearted boy. ı wish everything well for you in your life. if you visit istanbul someday, ı can show you around here.

Same here, Lal, same here. I’m glad you at least reply to me here, haha. Anyways, this thread helped many of us get a bit more in touch, to cut off from everything else. My evil plan actually worked. This gives me the inspiration to finish my site which is being made for this very reason, to bring us together. Hope it works out. Thanks a lot. And whether you like it or not, I’m bringing you here one day along with Arda. Don’t look at me awkwardly. Don’t be so mad at Arda, you guys just had a few hot conversations and a few differences in opinion, we are all heading up the same mountain if you know what I mean and you two are seated right next to each other in your plane to Armenia so work everything out. I imagine No Pasaran and many, many others in that plane as well, flown by Edo . Now THERE’S a dream and I look forward to it coming true. That day will come guys, don’t worry, my name isn’t Saco if that doesn’t happen. It’ll take more then just nationalist Turks without a life to stop us from getting together. If many of you can go all over the world, we can sure as hell catch a plane to Armenia. Leave the rest to me.

ı am not working to learn armenian , but ım working to understand turkey s real history . and ı get more and more shocked everyday.

You don’t need to learn Armenian Lal but I need to learn Turkish. To tell you the truth, I seem to make out many, many words I don’t know in Turkish (haven’t even heard them before) fairly easily. Maybe I was an Armenian living in Turkey in my last life, lol. Who knows?

we are always taught in school that we fought against imperialist countries and we are shown as the oppressed people. how funny,in reality we were(are) the imperialist ones and we 8are)were the oppressors.

I’m not surprised. I’ve read the history of different countries and I seem to have already past the stage of amazement and shock.

arabs,greeks,bulgarians,armenians or kurds desire of independence was considered as backstabbing by us.

Next thing you know they might think Mt. Olympus is situated in Turkey .

sorry my friend, untill yesterday, we taught that there was nothing like kurd in our country, and armenians were imperialist's ugly fighters against to our country.

I forgive you, Lal. I know it seems bold of me to say something like that but don’t take it in the wrong way. I think those words need to be heard more. I and many others forgive you Lal. Forgive us, if you can, for anything we have done. Now this should be in the headlines, not most of the rubbish you read nowadays. People talking to each other after a century of hate. We’re making history right now, you realize that?

now ı laugh to this stupit history, which never criticize herself but always accuse others and create enemies.

This is actually how the human mind works Lal. You see this same mentality in bullies or people who harm others or are very proud.

kurds and armenians are our sisters and brothers.ı was thinking just the opposite in your age. ı cant believe ı really came to this point.

I can’t believe I’m talking to you all now so I think we are all going through some strange emotions. Trust me, it may seem like all this is normal but after all these years, to see us talking together, it’s really amazing. It can bring tears to people’s eyes, eyes of the older, older generation, for sure. It’s the goldbrick road home and we’re already on the way.

ı learn a lot from you. teşekkürler.

I think I’m the one that learnt the most from all of you. Two-three months really can change a lot. Tesekkur ederim arkadasim, iyi şanslar (in everything you do).

arkadaşın Saco, from not so far away.

[Sako]

you about speaking Hayeren )

Possessive Determiners:

My = Benim (im)
Your= Senin (in)
His/Her/Its = Onun (i)
Our = Bizim (miz)
Your= Sizin (niz)
Their =Onların (leri)[/QUOTE]

Dude, your reading my mind . I've been wondering the corners of the world for some of these words.

Please remember that there is a difference here between Turkish and English. In Eglish you just put the possessive determiner in front of the word like "my book". In Turkish, you can put the determiners in front of thw word, but also you have to put the suffix (which is in the paranthesis) after the word. Mostly you dont need determiners in front of the word.

Thank's for the pointer, I started to realize this awhile ago when I was translating. Instead of saying "I live in Yerevan", in Turkish you sometimes have to say "Yerevan I live in". Am I right .

Examples:

My book = Benim kitab-ım or kitab-ım (kitap:book)
Your brother = Senin kardeş-in or kardeş-in

So how would you say these two examples you provided?
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Merhaba,

Ben otuz yedi yasindayim ve Californiada yasiyorum.

Hi, I live in Cali . Sorry, can't translate perfectly.

Bes yasindaydim aylemlen Americaya geldigimde. Benim isim avukatlik.

I'm Catholic!?! Phantom, you gotta help me here, I kinda got mixed up.

Saco, LAL and (probably Arda too), you guys and girls are so smart and mature for your age. When I read your writings, I feel embarrassed at how stupid and immature I was when I was your age.

And without all of you, we wouldn't be mature or whatever you say we are! You all will always be one step forward abi .

[Alexandros]

Turkiye ve Ermenistan iyi arkadas olabilir = Turkey and Armenia should be good friends

Turk kyzlary cok guzeller = Turkish girls are very beautiful

Kendine iyi bak = Take care

[ardakilic]

Tenses

Geniş Zaman (Present Simple Tense)
Miş'li Geçmiş Zaman (Rumour Past Tense)
Di'li Geçmiş Zaman (Storied Past Tense)
Şimdiki Zaman (Continous Tense)
Gelecek Zaman (Future Tense)

Please note that the most difficult part of Turkish language is "vowel and consonant harmony" rules. Dont be afraid i wont mention them But most of the time, when you see them, they dont make sense and dont worry. I hope you will be used to.

[VaheTheGreat(e)]

Tenses

Geniş Zaman (Present Simple Tense)
Miş'li Geçmiş Zaman (Rumour Past Tense)
Di'li Geçmiş Zaman (Storied Past Tense)
Şimdiki Zaman (Continous Tense)
Gelecek Zaman (Future Tense)

Please note that the most difficult part of Turkish language is "vowel and consonant harmony" rules. Dont be afraid i wont mention them But most of the time, when you see them, they dont make sense and dont worry. I hope you will be used to.

does Zaman means tense? In armenian it is Zamanak

[ardakilic]

does Zaman means tense? In armenian it is Zamanak

Yes, exactly.

But it comes from Arabic from the root of (dh-m-n), lol

[Sako]

Thanks for the new lessons Arda.

[ardakilic]

Saco Jan, i went some book stores in Istanbul and looked for a Turkish book. I have found some but i found them useless or not proper. Then i decided to write a book "Turkish for Foreigners". I hope it will help you.

According to me, as everybody knows, "giving fish" and "teaching fishing" is totally two different things. Memorising some daily conversation sentences is only giving fish, but it's ok if the aim is so. But if the aim is learning the language, i think this method wont help.

[Sako]

It's a good start (giving fish) but in the long run of course, I'll have to learn proper Turkish. I'll try my best and I will greatly appreciate and will buy the first copy of your book you are writing now IF you'll sign it.