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  • #41
    Re: Recognition and Restitution

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    Yes, that about sums it up. Of course you can try to delude yourself into thinking that isn't the case - but in the real world, beyond the Armenian ghetto, everyone knows it to be true. Such is the reality of the impact of Ghazarian's book - not a single academic review of it, and the World's most important library not having a copy of it.
    So, Soviet qualifications aren't worth the paper they're written on? Interesting.
    That's the US$ 700 my dad paid for my degree wasted then!

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    • #42
      Re: Recognition and Restitution

      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
      I have found only one middling review of it. The photos in that ebay listing provide a good summary of its content. Where would I get it from a library? Even the British Library (which tries to obtain a copy of every important English-language publication) doesn't have a copy - which suggests it is not considered a serious work.

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      • #43
        Re: Recognition and Restitution

        Originally posted by hrai View Post
        So, Soviet qualifications aren't worth the paper they're written on? Interesting.
        That's the US$ 700 my dad paid for my degree wasted then!
        Should that have had a smilie face next to it ?(Nowadays $700 in an envelope would probably be the going rate to guarantee getting your degree).

        Most Soviet historiography isn't worth the paper it's printed on, so, to overcome those preconceptions, anyone coming from that time-period needs to work extra-hard to convince.
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        • #44
          Re: Recognition and Restitution

          According to photographs found on ebay:
          Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post

          Most Soviet historiography isn't worth the paper it's printed on, so, to overcome those preconceptions, anyone coming from that time-period needs to work extra-hard to convince.

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          • #45
            Re: Recognition and Restitution

            Bell-the-cat is a hack, spewer of diatribes plain and simple. If the interweb was on paper, I do not know if people would even wipe their asses with the pages he wrote on.

            So let's see, while fapping to Churchill photos, he chooses something to oppose in a random post, Hayk Ghazarian in this case, and by a series of associations, implicates him in being inconsequential. While that may be for experts to decide, or at least for those who have read his books, a hack who thinks that the British Library is the sole arbiter of value in the world (it has every "important" book in the English language because it is a legal deposit for the UK, which means it has a lot of Churchill quote and sexcapade books in its history divisions.) Anyhow, those of us in the academia, Bell-the-hack, use sources other than Ebay and Wikipedia. They are such elusive, hidden places like Library of Congress and databases like World Cat. Anyhow, Library of Congress has 8 books by Hayk Ghazarian, granted that all of them are in Armenian from the looks of it. Worldcat yields 11 libraries with the book (sure, it's not Dadrian but not knowing the nature of the book, and how dense or academic it is, one cannot discredit it by looking at its unpopularity-- there are many well regarded academic books with similar numbers) and one of these libraries is Bilkent University-- a Turkish institution.

            This is not to say that it is a good or a bad book. It can be discussed extensively by people qualified to do so, and I say that with the lowest of standards in mind, while people like Bell-the-cat can do what they do best: bullxxxx.
            Last edited by anila; 02-24-2009, 06:49 AM. Reason: correction

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            • #46
              Re: Recognition and Restitution

              Originally posted by anila View Post
              Bell-the-cat is a hack, spewer of diatribes plain and simple. If the interweb was on paper, I do not know if people would even wipe their asses with the pages he wrote on.

              So let's see, while fapping to Churchill photos, he chooses something to oppose in a random post, Hayk Ghazarian in this case, and by a series of associations, implicates him in being inconsequential. While that may be for experts to decide, or at least for those who have read his books, a hack who thinks that the British Library is the sole arbiter of value in the world (it has every "important" book in the English language because it is a legal deposit for the UK, which means it has a lot of Churchill quote and sexcapade books in its history divisions.) Anyhow, those of us in the academia, Bell-the-hack, use sources other than Ebay and Wikipedia. They are such elusive, hidden places like Library of Congress and databases like World Cat. Anyhow, Library of Congress has 8 books by Hayk Ghazarian, granted that all of them are in Armenian from the looks of it. Worldcat yields 11 libraries with the book (sure, it's not Dadrian but not knowing the nature of the book, and how dense or academic it is, one cannot discredit it by looking at its unpopularity-- there are many well regarded academic books with similar numbers) and one of these libraries is Bilkent University-- a Turkish institution.

              This is not to say that it is a good or a bad book. It can be discussed extensively by people qualified to do so, and I say that with the lowest of standards in mind, while people like Bell-the-cat can do what they do best: bullxxxx.
              Hmmmm ... a six-post wonder with a Churchhill obsession and a hatred of anyone who says it like it is. Get off my interwebs, you're clogging-up its pipes!
              Last edited by bell-the-cat; 02-24-2009, 09:08 AM.
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              • #47
                Re: Recognition and Restitution

                Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                Hmmmm ... a six-post wonder with a Churchhill obsession and a hatred of anyone who says it like it is. Get off my interwebs, you're clogging-up its pipes!
                Reading old posts as Anila seems to have.........that's a little research Bell,.... you do seem to be obsessive/anal regarding churchill.

                And since when does the number of posts anyone has made or makes disqualify the content of said post?

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                • #48
                  Re: Recognition and Restitution

                  Originally posted by anila View Post
                  Bell-the-cat is a hack, spewer of diatribes plain and simple. If the interweb was on paper, I do not know if people would even wipe their asses with the pages he wrote on.

                  So let's see, while fapping to Churchill photos, he chooses something to oppose in a random post, Hayk Ghazarian in this case, and by a series of associations, implicates him in being inconsequential. While that may be for experts to decide, or at least for those who have read his books, a hack who thinks that the British Library is the sole arbiter of value in the world (it has every "important" book in the English language because it is a legal deposit for the UK, which means it has a lot of Churchill quote and sexcapade books in its history divisions.) Anyhow, those of us in the academia, Bell-the-hack, use sources other than Ebay and Wikipedia. They are such elusive, hidden places like Library of Congress and databases like World Cat. Anyhow, Library of Congress has 8 books by Hayk Ghazarian, granted that all of them are in Armenian from the looks of it. Worldcat yields 11 libraries with the book (sure, it's not Dadrian but not knowing the nature of the book, and how dense or academic it is, one cannot discredit it by looking at its unpopularity-- there are many well regarded academic books with similar numbers) and one of these libraries is Bilkent University-- a Turkish institution.

                  This is not to say that it is a good or a bad book. It can be discussed extensively by people qualified to do so, and I say that with the lowest of standards in mind, while people like Bell-the-cat can do what they do best: bullxxxx.
                  Well said Anila,
                  I couldn't have put it better, I haven't the strength to answer Bell at any length, so thanks.
                  He's got the advantage of the solitude of the padded cell, unlimited time to surf ebay, wikipedia and "IloveWinston.com" that he can produce bs on an unprecedented and profuse scale.
                  I just wonder if he posts before or after his medication?

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                  • #49
                    Re: Recognition and Restitution

                    Originally posted by hrai View Post
                    And since when does the number of posts anyone has made or makes disqualify the content of said post?
                    When they are either a sockpuppet, or a reincarnation of a longtime banned member. But, of course, you also are a reincarnation of a longtime banned member, aren't you?
                    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 02-24-2009, 06:40 PM.
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                    • #50
                      Re: Recognition and Restitution

                      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                      When they are either a sockpuppet, or a reincarnation of a longtime banned member. But, of course, you also are a reincarnation of a longtime banned member, aren't you?
                      cat, don't be so sure someone else is the reincarnation of a banned member. What makes you think you can be so ko'key about it.

                      Hrai, I happen to agree as well with Anila's logic and post. How much you can rely on Wikipedia alone and base your opinion on it?

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