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  • #71
    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

    Today on the eve of the Armenian Genocide commemoration day Turkish Prime Minister, Erdogan, announced that all the major points of the agreement, on opening borders between Turkey and Armenia, are agreed upon. And continued that the Artsakh issue should be solved by taking out Armenian troops.

    You all are witnesses, that Armenian president and Foreign Minister publicly announced several times that Artsakh never ever will be a part of the newly fabricated, in the world map, Azerbidjan (thus Turkey managed to lie even in the area of Geography with assistance of its communist friend; Lenin).

    We cannot give Armenians of Artsakh to Turks to carry out another Genocide on them; they are able to “conquer” unarmed population as opposed the armed ones.

    What does this mean?

    Turkish diplomacy for centuries have been based on the absolute lie, remember their behavior during the Genocide and now.

    The countries that had mutual interests with Turkey, like Germany during the Genocide period, imitated that they believe their words, as an excuse, to continue supporting them and serve their own interests.

    Now Erdogan is trying to give an excuse to USA for not accepting the AG bill.

    But “alas” this time the Turk is bitterly mistaken.

    Now it is not in the USA interests to believe the lie. At most after one year, when American troops are out of Iraq. America will have another more obedient ally in the Middle East; Kurds.

    And now Turkey badly needs to seek for another superpower to sly with. After establishment of the Kurdish Republic Turkey will be submerged in civil war with Kurd inside the country and it will cry for the help from all Superpowers.

    Shame on the blatant lie “buyers”!
    Last edited by gegev; 04-22-2009, 10:35 PM.

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    • #72
      Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

      Originally posted by gegev View Post
      After establishment of the Kurdish Republic Turkey will be submerged in civil war with Kurd inside the country and it will cry for the help from all Superpowers.

      Shame on the blatant lie “buyers”!
      Welcome to Armenian Wonderland.....

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      • #73
        Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

        Originally posted by hitite View Post
        Welcome to Armenian Wonderland.....
        An Armenian Wonderland is preferable to the turkish Hell.

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        • #74
          Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

          Originally posted by hitite View Post
          Welcome to Armenian Wonderland.....
          Thanks Hitite!

          And what about Erdogan Statement below?

          Today on the eve of the Armenian Genocide commemoration day Turkish Prime Minister, Erdogan, announced that all the major points of the agreement, on opening borders between Turkey and Armenia, are agreed upon. And continued that the Artsakh issue should be solved by taking out Armenian troops.

          You all are witnesses, that Armenian president and Foreign Minister publicly announced several times that Artsakh never ever will be a part of the newly fabricated, on the world map, Azerbidjan (thus Turkey managed to lie even in the area of Geography with assistance of its communist friend; Lenin).

          We cannot give Armenians of Artsakh to Turks to carry out another Genocide on them; they are able to “conquer” unarmed population as opposed the armed ones.

          What does this mean?

          Turkish diplomacy for centuries have been based on the absolute lie, remember their behavior during the Genocide and now.

          The countries that had mutual interests with Turkey, like Germany during the Genocide period, imitated that they believe their words, as an excuse, to continue supporting them and serve their own interests.

          Now Erdogan is trying to give an excuse to USA for not accepting the AG bill.

          But “alas” this time the Turk is bitterly mistaken.

          Now it is not in the USA interests to believe the lie. At most after one year, when American troops are out of Iraq. America will have another more obedient ally in the Middle East; Kurds.

          And now Turkey badly needs to seek for another superpower to sly with. After establishment of the Kurdish Republic Turkey will be submerged in civil war with Kurds inside the country and it will cry for the help from all Superpowers.

          Shame on the blatant lie “buyers”!
          Last edited by gegev; 04-22-2009, 11:28 PM.

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          • #75
            Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

            Originally posted by hrai View Post
            An Armenian Wonderland is preferable to the turkish Hell.
            Being landlocked is killing you man; you need to reach the sea and cool off otherwise Turkey will always be hell for you. However I just cant see you doing this in the next few decades and maybe centuries. You will get a cold shower when the borders open though, a breath of fresh air maybe. Which brings me to your question Gegev. I support the opening of the borders and believe it will be mutually beneficial for both countries. I thouroughly believe the main negotiations are over. I dont know if part of the bargain is the moving of Armenian troops from Artsakh but I seriously doubt this will happen. I feel like the deal might be that "some" troops retreat and some Azeri refugees move back to their homes and that the lachin koridor will be in control of an international force. I am very curious to see how all this is going to turn out.
            Last edited by hitite; 04-23-2009, 02:35 AM.

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            • #76
              Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

              Originally posted by hitite View Post
              Being landlocked is killing you man; you need to reach the sea and cool off otherwise Turkey will always be hell for you. However I just cant see you doing this in the next few decades and maybe centuries. You will get a cold shower when the borders open though, a breath of fresh air maybe. Which brings me to your question Gegev. I support the opening of the borders and believe it will be mutually beneficial for both countries. I thouroughly believe the main negotiations are over. I dont know if part of the bargain is the moving of Armenian troops from Artsakh but I seriously doubt this will happen. I feel like the deal might be that "some" troops retreat and some Azeri refugees move back to their homes and that the lachin koridor will be in control of an international force. I am very curious to see how all this is going to turn out.
              You must be on crack or something regards Artsakh.
              If the borders open, the air blowing in from turcey would be pretty fetid for some years before it freshens.

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              • #77
                Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

                Originally posted by hitite View Post
                Being landlocked is killing you man; you need to reach the sea and cool off otherwise Turkey will always be hell for you. However I just cant see you doing this in the next few decades and maybe centuries. You will get a cold shower when the borders open though, a breath of fresh air maybe. Which brings me to your question Gegev. I support the opening of the borders and believe it will be mutually beneficial for both countries. I thouroughly believe the main negotiations are over. I dont know if part of the bargain is the moving of Armenian troops from Artsakh but I seriously doubt this will happen. I feel like the deal might be that "some" troops retreat and some Azeri refugees move back to their homes and that the lachin koridor will be in control of an international force. I am very curious to see how all this is going to turn out.
                What about Armenian refugees forced out of Baku, Sumgait and Maragha? What of the homes they forced to move from

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                • #78
                  Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

                  Bravo Pedro, that would have to be covered as well
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • #79
                    Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

                    Originally posted by hrai View Post
                    You must be on crack or something regards Artsakh.
                    If the borders open, the air blowing in from turcey would be pretty fetid for some years before it freshens.
                    I agree, opening of the boarder must be in conjunction with the state's distribution of gas masks.
                    B0zkurt Hunter

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                    • #80
                      Re: Turkey will be split apart as Iraq is.

                      JOINT STATEMENT OF THE MINISTRIES OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE REPUBLIC OF ARMENIA, THE REPUBLIC OF TURKEY AND THE SWISS FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

                      22 April 2009

                      Turkey and Armenia, together with Switzerland as mediator, have been working intensively with a view to normalizing their bilateral relations and developing them in a spirit of good-neighborliness, and mutual respect, and thus to promoting peace, security and stability in the whole region.

                      The two parties have achieved tangible progress and mutual understanding in this process and they have agreed on a comprehensive framework for the normalization of their bilateral relations in a mutually satisfactory manner. In this context, a road-map has been identified.

                      This agreed basis provides a positive prospect for the on-going process.
                      Note please that there was established the Israel-Palestine Road-Map (and although the Artsakh process is not called Road-Map, but it is the same thing) led nowhere.

                      So this doesn’t mean anything else than enabling Turkey to lie officially, through the help of the Switzerland mediator, on achieving ‘tangible progress’, to prevent AG recognition.

                      Please estimate; how much the ‘tangible progress’ costs (or weighs) on the eve of AG commemoration?

                      Regards,

                      Gegev

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