European Elections June 2009 in France

[CRDA-France]

Next June in France, there are going to be "European Elections" for The European Parliament in Strasbourg, East of France on the German border.

It is an opportunity to focus the French about Turkish candidateship for E.U.

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

I have created a new page : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...e/juin2009.htm

Take care. We keep in touch. Nil (Paris)

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/4diaspora/2francophonie/4presence_historique.htm

[CRDA-France]

Re: European Elections June 2009 in France

April 24 is over. Now in France we aim the European Elections next June 7.

My page is advancing : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...e/juin2009.htm

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

And I have announced it in the Home Page :

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/home.htm

We have to see how we shall contact the candidates in the coming week.

Nil

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/9genocide1915/f_8unioneuro1.htm

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[CRDA-France]

Re: European Elections June 2009 in France

Here is a video on interviewing a French candidate of European Elections : http://www.linternaute.com/video/190...uie-en-europe/

It is interessing how it is politically presented, how semantically they turn the questions and the answers. There is an analyzis to be done on the mimic and on the words :

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/9genocide1915/i_glossaire.htm

This list must be translated one day in different languages : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...saairepage.htm

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

>>>> Please can you find me www about European Elections seen from the USA ? From Senators, politicians, businessmen, etc. etc.

Nil
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[CRDA-France]

Re: European Elections June 2009 in France

Membership of Turkey to EU seen from a French newspaper "Le Monde" : 10 reasons of polemic

http://news.fr.msn.com/monde/galerie.aspx?cp-documentid=16743495&imageindex=1#16743495

We, French Armenians, are doing our best to counter the Turkish projekt to enter the E.U. I do not know how much the other Armenian communities are acting about that.

Here is a map of European States about the Turkish Candidateship (red = against ; blue = in favour ) :

http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/monde/europe/l-opinion-europeenne-et-la-turquie_759532.html

Nil

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr_9informationcitoyenne/europe/juin2009.htm

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[CRDA-France]

Re: European Elections June 2009 in France

Here is a rough translation of an open letter I did in Paris.
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7 June 2009 European elections? Questioning from the folder of the expression:
"Entry of Turkey: What the Europeans have really scared?" [* 01]

Let's talk about this "fear"! The European elections are not free of paradox in their prose. It is not unusual to hear political-semantic manipulation to demonize Islam confusing Islam with terrorism and fueling Islamophobia (for geopolitical reasons in the Middle East), but also by means of Islamophobic recycling xenophobia Classic can no longer speak in the European Union.

Due to its non-democratic nature, Islamophobia becomes:

- An indirect ally of unsaid Turkish Denial >> dragging the Armenian Genocide of 1915 on the back of Islam and -more dangerous- minimizing the responsibility of the Turkish-Ottoman State in the organization of deportations [* 02] and concentration camps [* 03]

- A working tool of the Euro-revisionism>> present the image of Turkey "secular", [* 04] "modern", [* 05] "with a European vocation" [* 06]-while obscuring the various dual-purpose reforms (non-said) and their consequences Kemalists contradictory.

This brings us to explain the origins of the Genocide of Armenians in 1915 and its current denial, hoping to undo the laces which tighten the bag of trouble. It is out of confusion. To this end, we recall that:

- Genocide was based on ideological pantouranist ultra [* 07] and non-Islam,
- The project was to create a great empire Touranian from the Mediterranean to Central Asia,
- The first step in the process provided a junction with the Azeris,
- Ethnic cleansing with the complicity of pangermanisme which folowed, [* 08] was a consequence of this criminal deportation at an indigenous people. [* 09]

If religious fanaticism was instrumentalized by the Young Turk Government, the massacres and deportations which geared, were denounced as un-Islamic. [* 10] The Young Turk government was harshly described as "ungrateful" [ * 11] by the Hashemite emir of Hejaz, Hoceïn Ibn Ali (1854-1931). The sheriff of Mecca, issued a firman in 1917 as the Custodian of Holy Places, asking Muslims to give hospitality to survivors of the Armenian deportees raids, atrocities and exterminations since 1915. [* 12]

After the war, France secretly negotiating with the new Turkish nationalist uprising against the Ottoman imperial authorities, [* 13] becomes the first major power to contribute to concrete negationism Kemalist. Thereafter, she did not hesitate to abandon the Armenian refugees who had survived the 1915 massacres at the hands of armed Turkish Cilicia (1921). [* 14] The Treaty of Lausanne (1923) enshrines impunity this genocide to the extent that the Nuremberg Trials, it is reported that Hitler had expressed before attacking Poland in 1939: "Who speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" [* 15]

Beyond considerations / analysis on the historical relations between States, and beyond other levels (religious - political - Demographics - Economics - European financial aid), what about the "fear" of European citizens? What role does the past? What is also of the European Unconscious Mind vis-à-vis its own historical legacy?

It can be argued some thesis to try to understand the "fear" of European citizens. Among these include in-three:

- The Turkification

Knowing that the Turkification (which was not an ethnicity islamization retaining young converts) has been used extensively within the Ottoman Empire-the Balkans and Anatolia, to mention only these two regions. [* 16] In many of these young people, better known in Europe were janissaires trained and conditioned to fight at the front. [* 17]

- Colonialism and slavery

Whereas some french and European aspects, past or present, it may be argued that:
. this "fear" in France, in particular, is catalyzed by the remainings not yet clarified with the Algerian War (Harkis, torture, war crimes) [* 18] and also in general by the memory of colonialism and the Memory out of slavery recalled by our multiethnic society. [* 19]
. Transatlantic Slave Trade is specifically to the historical basis of the various financial and economic booms in Western Europe. There is inconsistency and discrepancy with Central Europe that has not been involved in this trafficking offense, that has not been in the neighbouhood and that has not benefited. [* 20]

- The current denial of the Armenian genocide

As the denial of a crime against humanity, we should emphasize:
. denial, concealment of facts of dehumanization, all concrete in a State Denial of from Turkey for more than 90 years
. the devastation caused by the denial in the collective unconscious, for both descendants of victims and perpetrators, [* 21]
. the Middle East, an unconscious genesis of Islamic terrorism which we try to understand why beyond conflict and fanaticism, [* 22]
. in France, with a trivialized denial as a "genocide" in quotes reported by the denial of state in question: a desertion and a laxity in our country can only encourage discrimination and crime sociologically-consciously or unconsciously.

These psycho-sociological mechanisms that European politicians seek to minimize or render obscure regarding civil society are better discerned with the Turkish-Kurdish news. We understand better the 1915 genocide with the acts of violence committed by power Kemalist power of Ankara on the other indigenous people who remain in the region, that is to say, the Kurds. [* 23]

So today, as regards the European Parliament, beyond the "fears" and being more responsive to communities, minorities or oppressed peoples of neighboring countries -and not being with their oppressors or corrupt states- we shall hope that this can contribute to better answers to Eurocitizens expectations!

Nil V. Agopoff
ADIC (Paris)
[*nn] down this page >>> http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...0906_peur1.htm
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[hipeter924]

Re: European Elections June 2009 in France

I don't think Turkey will get in. I am sure they just see Turkey, like the flood of North African refugees. Totally unwanted.

[CRDA-France]

Re: European Elections June 2009 in France

I don't think Turkey will get in. I am sure they just see Turkey, like the flood of North African refugees. Totally unwanted.

There are two levels :
- our level of (small) people who have very-very little power,
- people of State level who decide in their interest of Realpolitik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik . They do not care about what we think of.

So we have to go beyond of thinking (even appropriately), we have to act. As we cannot fight alone, we must have allies. To have allies, we must inform people having same interests. Nowadays, it is possible to do it easily thanks to internet, thanks to targeted appropriate e-mails.

Everytime we notice any denial attitudes, any historical falsifications, any political pressures, we must inform our potential allies : historical, political, religious, cultural, geographical, local, social, professional, familial, etc., etc...
http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=14875 - http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=14882 - http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=14870

This has to be our first natural stage of action. It must become a second nature : as driving, for exemple. The phase of (small) talk is over. We know that reality in Europe : Turkey is knocking at the door of European Union and Brussels economic bureaucraty is the ally of powerfull corrupting Ankara.

Gun traders of today are slave traders of yesterday. Isn't it so ?

Please translate this page and try to read it : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...iberalisme.htm

If you do not understand these economical-political-diplomatical mechanisms -which are often heavilly underground- please ask to some African American University professors : http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...usa_blacks.htm . They will tell you how hard their struggle has been. They will also explain how big are the differences between impacts of refugees and the ones of an important State.

And even if there has to be a flood somewhere, it must be ours : our numerous targetted e-mails ! We have to manage them not to be a (totally) unwanted matter.

Meanwhile, it is simply possible to go to the movies... Please go and see the very good film "The Great Debaters" with Denzel Washington and produced by Oprah Winfrey. I am sure you'll get it then.

Best regards from Paris. Take care. Au revoir. Parev. Nil (France)
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