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  • Turkey and the Armenian Ghost published in Turkish

    A review by Hugh Pope, who calls for an English translation (the original is in French): http://hughpope.com/2013/07/19/turkeys-armenian-ghosts/

    I suppose a more nuanced denial like Pope's might emerge (or already has?) in Turkey before broader acceptance?

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    Re: Turkey and the Armenian Ghost published in Turkish

    Nothing will capture the essence of what the Armenians endured at the hands of the Turks and Kurds. I wonder if these authors mention the French role in any of it or perhaps they to have washed their hands with the soap made from Armenian bones.

    Originally posted by TomServo View Post
    A review by Hugh Pope, who calls for an English translation (the original is in French): http://hughpope.com/2013/07/19/turkeys-armenian-ghosts/

    I suppose a more nuanced denial like Pope's might emerge (or already has?) in Turkey before broader acceptance?
    Hayastan or Bust.

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      Re: Turkey and the Armenian Ghost published in Turkish

      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
      Nothing will capture the essence of what the Armenians endured at the hands of the Turks and Kurds.
      When will Armenians like you write such a book - never.
      Last edited by bell-the-cat; 04-13-2014, 09:30 AM.
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        Re: Turkey and the Armenian Ghost published in Turkish

        Originally posted by TomServo View Post
        A review by Hugh Pope, who calls for an English translation (the original is in French): http://hughpope.com/2013/07/19/turkeys-armenian-ghosts/

        I suppose a more nuanced denial like Pope's might emerge (or already has?) in Turkey before broader acceptance?
        I dont see a nuanced denial by Pope. He just seems to be following the contemporary official Armenian and Turkish line encouraged by America and the EU - that it is a matter for Armenians and Turks (with careful external encouragement) to quietly and gradually come together in their own good time and decide amongst themselves what happened. Good for Marchand and Perrier that they seem to have decided to say xxxx you to all that: absolute truth is more important, the past is not owned by either Turks or Armenians, and we don't need wait for or have regard for the opinions of, or sensitivites of, idiots, liars, delusionists, and cowards - or be restrained in our criticism of them.
        Last edited by bell-the-cat; 04-13-2014, 09:34 AM.
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          Re: Turkey and the Armenian Ghost published in Turkish

          I am contemplating writing a book actually. Not about the genocide for it is not my specialty. There are however many books written by Armenians on the genocide but i guess you consider them all trash and you conclude that only a nonarmenian can write such a book and have that book be deemed legitimate. I hope your racist views die with you Bell.

          Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
          When will Armenians like you write such a book - never.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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            Re: Turkey and the Armenian Ghost published in Turkish

            Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
            I am contemplating writing a book actually. Not about the genocide for it is not my specialty. There are however many books written by Armenians on the genocide but i guess you consider them all trash and you conclude that only a nonarmenian can write such a book and have that book be deemed legitimate. I hope your racist views die with you Bell.
            Few books are worse than the typical "By Armenians for Armenians" books about general Armenian history - and (academic books and articles aside) Armenians don't seem interested in writing for a wider audience (even when they appear to be, they are really still writing it just for Armenians) and are, at the same time, scared that non-Armenians might do it successfully and thus expose Armenian failings, petty jealosies, and national myths. So of course I conclude that only a nonArmenian could write such a book as "Turkey and the Armenian Ghost".

            When some Armenians start calling you a Turk, you can be almost certain that you are right - but when they get to the stage of issuing death threats, that is the conclusive proof you are right. So - thanks Haykakan
            Last edited by bell-the-cat; 04-14-2014, 06:38 AM.
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              Re: Turkey and the Armenian Ghost published in Turkish

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              Few books are worse than the typical "By Armenians for Armenians" books about general Armenian history - and (academic books and articles aside) Armenians don't seem interested in writing for a wider audience (even when they appear to be, they are really still writing it just for Armenians) and are, at the same time, scared that non-Armenians might do it successfully and thus expose Armenian failings, petty jealosies, and national myths. So of course I conclude that only a nonArmenian could write such a book as "Turkey and the Armenian Ghost".

              When some Armenians start calling you a Turk, you can be almost certain that you are right - but when they get to the stage of issuing death threats, that is the conclusive proof you are right. So - thanks Haykakan
              Threat? What threat? No threats were issued nor implied. Nor have i called you a Turk from what i recall. You seem to think that people care enough about you to issue threats against you-as usual you are delusional and full of yourself.
              Hayastan or Bust.

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