A hundred years of remembering

[hrai]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Chubs is right......racism was one of the main causes of Genocide.

Other causes are but not limited to:
Armenian Russian volunteers destroyed Turkish 5th Army with Pasha himself barely escaping with his life.......Revenge

No Eddo, you are repeating turc lies.
The winter weather and the stupidity of the turcs by sending troops without sufficient cold weather equipment and food caused the vast majority of casualties in the turcish 3rd army (not 5th which was formed in 1915 and fought at Galipolli).

Armenians held great wealth and businesses.......Greed

The majority of Armenians didn't have wealth let alone "great wealth", farmers, artisans and peasants by the most part, any wealth diminished by the depredations and punitive fiscal systems of the turcs and kurds. In fact in some villages Armenian artisans were kept from the death marches because the turc could not replicate their skills, turcs didn't want businesses as this would mean having to work.

To finally solve the Armenian question (problem)........fifth column.

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To cleans the Armenians from their own lands......land grab (with properties)

Now we got to it.

Kurdish bandits and Turkish regulars rape murder torture kill.........but still fired upon by young teen Armenians with their Mosins taller than them.

Turks better understand that we are the people of Ararat.......no one can own her and only Armenians belong to her.

[Eddo211]

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Good to see you post my friend......If I knew me posting BS will get you out I would have done it sooner

No Eddo, you are repeating turc lies.
The winter weather and the stupidity of the turcs by sending troops without sufficient cold weather equipment and food caused the vast majority of casualties in the turcish 3rd army (not 5th which was formed in 1915 and fought at Galipolli).

You are right, it was the 3rd Army and I was referring to the battle of Karikamish (Sarikamish) where the senior Russian army officers of Armenian extraction team fcked up the Turks left due to knowledge of terrain. The weather killed alot on both side (more ill prepared turks) so yes, you be right.

The majority of Armenians didn't have wealth let alone "great wealth", farmers, artisans and peasants by the most part, any wealth diminished by the depredations and punitive fiscal systems of the turcs and kurds. In fact in some villages Armenian artisans were kept from the death marches because the turc could not replicate their skills, turcs didn't want businesses as this would mean having to work.

I have heard we (as in few influenced ones) did control money flow since Toork could not do simple math let alone economics of the time, lol. Plus Armenians have always traded and had businesses (not my family that lived in a small village).

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In their eyes Armenians were not needed anymore....just like all you need is four columns to hold the roof.....the fifth is extra.

Now we got to it.

We are people of Ararat.

[bell-the-cat]

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You are unbelievable honestly. I thought you were a valuable member to this community, a person who contributed to the discussion greatly...but now I see you are just a blatant racist who wants to keep Armenians and Turks fighting for the rest of eternity.

You haven't been around here long enough. Artashes is by far the most obnoxious, unpleasant person on this forum, he is an unabashed racist, and a well-known moron. But he is not alone in his views - there are others, some less extreme (though only by a little), and some not around anymore because they have been banned.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

You are right, it was the 3rd Army and I was referring to the battle of Karikamish (Sarikamish) where the senior Russian army officers of Armenian extraction team fcked up the Turks left due to knowledge of terrain. The weather killed alot on both side (more ill prepared turks) so yes, you be right.

That is not really correct. The people who turned Sarikamish into an Ottoman defeat was the population of Sarikamish, mostly civilians. In particular a brigade of 1000 railway construction workers who were Russians, supported by border guards and about 1000 civilian militia, who would have been a mixture of Armenians and Russians and other ethnicities. They resisted the Ottoman army in the hills around Sarikamish, stopping them occupying Sarikamish and forcing them to camp out in the open, in freezing conditions. The Sarikamish forces were later joined by 7 platoons of Turkistan riflemen who happened to be in Kars, and they, along with the forces already mentioned, defended Sarikamish when the Turks, reduced to half their original numbers, attacked the town in strength.

The Russian army officers, regardless of their ethnicity, had panicked, ordered a general retreat, had withdrawn from northern Persia allowing the Christian population there to be massacred by Turks and Kurds, and the generals fled to Kars and then on to Tbilisi where they threw the city into panic by predicting the Turks would soon be at the gates.

[Artashes]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

You haven't been around here long enough. Artashes is by far the most obnoxious, unpleasant person on this forum, he is an unabashed racist, and a well-known moron. But he is not alone in his views - there are others, some less extreme (though only by a little), and some not around anymore because they have been banned.

Once again the protectected cat runs his foul mouth with moronic drivel .
There is no racism in the hatred of the turc actions of today or yesteryear.
The only racism spews forth from the a-sshole cat towards Armenia and Armenians.
The refusal to directly address the tortuous, murderous, racist actions of the turc both contemporary and past, but instead bequeath respect to the murderous invaders and their fraudulent offspring was the cruxt of my contention with chubs.
The cat in referencing chubs post has projected his racism onto me fraudulently but of course w ith no penalty by the moderators.
Anyone one who can read need only compare the posts by both of us to see the foul racist mouth of a cat and see the appropriate anger I express about the genocide, all previous turc conduct on world stage, and the emmediate contemporary fraud perpetrated by the turc govt & general turc population of today.
The only part of chubs post that was referred to that was --- unbelievable --- was that chubs never once addressed the heinous crimes or coverup I referred to (but) extolled the ?humanity? of the turc offspring.

[Chubs]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

You haven't been around here long enough. Artashes is by far the most obnoxious, unpleasant person on this forum, he is an unabashed racist, and a well-known moron. But he is not alone in his views - there are others, some less extreme (though only by a little), and some not around anymore because they have been banned.

Aaaand, thanks for reviving this flamewar, bell....

Couldn't resist huh?

[Artashes]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Aaaand, thanks for reviving this flamewar, bell....

Couldn't resist huh?

Read the conniving cats posts. To be obnoxious and racist and then project that onto others is the puss's road game.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Aaaand, thanks for reviving this flamewar, bell....

Couldn't resist huh?

So, although he is an obnoxious little racist prick (as you yourself admit), he is an obnoxious little racist ARMENIAN prick - and that makes his behaviour acceptable. Of course I knew that already, but it is always good to be reminded about Armenian low moral standards.

[Chubs]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

So, although he is an obnoxious little racist prick (as you yourself admit), he is an obnoxious little racist ARMENIAN prick - and that makes his behaviour acceptable. Of course I knew that already, but it is always good to be reminded about Armenian low moral standards.

Who said it makes it acceptable? What is unacceptable is you reviving a flame war. Drop it please.

[Artashes]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Who said it makes it acceptable? What is unacceptable is you reviving a flame war. Drop it please.

Note the punk cats language. This is how the "sophisticated" elite talk amongst themselves. The lower ranks of the sophisticated who are enamored with themselves because they get to rub shoulders with the elite bigots talk like this as their general use speech.
There is no racism in the hatred of turc actions of today or yesterday. The turc of today and yesteryear are responsible for their actions.
The turc of today is decended from heartless murdering thieves.
The turc of today continues the lies and fraud of their ancestors and honorees those ancestors.
----- ? A flame war? ----
Hahahaha. Have you ever been in a gun fight? What is the largest group you have fought with no backup?
If you saw of the tip of the barrel of an ak47, the bullets come out somewhat slower but the flame shoots out significantly farther. Why it is so I don't know, but the enemy would freeze up for a certain duration when confronted with the extra visible flame.
The cats agenda is is fraudulent and represents the elites and has nothing to do with honor.