A hundred years of remembering

[Artashes]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

100% of the turcees that came to our lands and others murdered and tortured and...
Not some of them.
The vast majority of turcees today are proud of this.
100% call someone else's land their own.
You can say the things in the posts you have written on April 24th at an Armenian gathering.
Better you go to a turcee gathering.
They'll eat that xxxx.

[Chubs]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Apparently your not seeing the facts presented to you, but rather ignore them to sustain your point of view.
The heinous crimes I and others have pointed out were done by individual turcs with joy and pleasure, not as colateral damage from indiscriminate bombing, shelling, or gunfire.
As the numerous eye witnesses to these atrocities have repetedly attested that the gross --- INHUMANITY --- of the turc was beyond imagination.
This conduct was repeted ad Nosium during the genocide specifically targeting Armenians.
Inhuman conduct deserves the title of non human, not an apologist.
You confuse racism for hatred.
The desire for greater rights and governmental accountability by the turcee of today is for there benefit and has absolutely nothing to do with their conduct toward denial of the genocide (truth) or there honoring the savage inhuman conduct of their grandparents and predecessors.
To deny the genocide is to continue the genocide.
Inhumanity is in their intire history and goes to the core of their nature.
The Mongol, before gengis kan but most notably from gengis onward was a criminal activity done with such cruelty as had never been seen in the annals of history. The plunder of China alone took entire army's to transport. The human toll was purpetratrated on an individual basis with the same inhuman conduct as the turc who accompanies the mongol.
They were hated and loathed wherever they went.
And you speak well of them?
You can continue your turc apologist crap in the guise of your tremendous (lol) understanding.
I got no shift with you.

Racism- the belief that all members of each race or ethnic group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

The characteristic you are speaking of: Inhumane killing, brutality.
You apply this characteristic to the entire ethnic group, even to several other ethnic groups that had nothing to do with the genocide. You then label the people of these ethnic groups inferior or subhuman.
(And the mongols, here is a presentation about their so called "barbarism": http://prezi.com/edbn8vx2pe1v/how-ba...e-the-mongols/)

"To deny the genocide is to continue the genocide"
This is true, but let me remind you
To spread hatred for another people, starts a genocide.
We are going to get no where if you constantly make Turks sound like inferior, subhuman, barbaric, trash. They are simply not like this. As I said before, war and killing is embedded in our nature through years of practice. Is has become the only thing humans are truly good at. If turks are inferior because they committed a genocide (several) then so are Germans, Russians, Brits, Cambodians, Hutus, Sudanese, the Spanish, Arabs, and so on....

[Artashes]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Apparently your not seeing the facts presented to you, but rather ignore them to sustain your point of view.
The heinous crimes I and others have pointed out were done by individual turcs with joy and pleasure, not as colateral damage from indiscriminate bombing, shelling, or gunfire.
As the numerous eye witnesses to these atrocities have repetedly attested that the gross --- INHUMANITY --- of the turc was beyond imagination.
This conduct was repeted ad Nosium during the genocide specifically targeting Armenians.
Inhuman conduct deserves the title of non human, not an apologist.
You confuse racism for hatred.
The desire for greater rights and governmental accountability by the turcee of today is for there benefit and has absolutely nothing to do with their conduct toward denial of the genocide (truth) or there honoring the savage inhuman conduct of their grandparents and predecessors.
To deny the genocide is to continue the genocide.
Inhumanity is in their intire history and goes to the core of their nature.
The Mongol, before gengis kan but most notably from gengis onward was a criminal activity done with such cruelty as had never been seen in the annals of history. The plunder of China alone took entire army's to transport. The human toll was purpetratrated on an individual basis with the same inhuman conduct as the turc who accompanies the mongol.
They were hated and loathed wherever they went.
And you speak well of them?
You can continue your turc apologist crap in the guise of your tremendous (lol) understanding.
I got no shift with you.

[Chubs]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Children's hands hacked off in such numbers one could pave the -- ROAD -- with them.
Lining children up and seeing how many -- CHILDRENS -- heads a bullet would go through.
Cutting open pregnant women's stomachs and ripping out the unborn to toss and stick on a bayonet.
Gauging out the eyes of defenseless old men.
Etc,etc,etc....
You a human? Is that your nature?
Wtf are you talking about?
Ever read the history of the mongols, huns, turcs? Standard conduct by ALL accounts.
Idling was not enough. HIDEOUS torture was de rigor .
The turcs of today justify and celebrate their emmediate predecessors.
Note the doning of automums garb & playing automums music recently in the Netherlands (BECAUSE) a memorial was erected to the torturous genocide of our family. Recently.
Edee amine or the hutus come to mind but not standard conduct amongst humans.

Guess what...
Mongols, Huns, and Turks...All humans. Iraq war, killed 500 thousand civilians...Started and fought by humans. I can keep going. War and killing is embedded into our nature after thousands of years of practice.
And the mongols... They were not beasts so many people actually made them out to be. Many historians would agree that they brought peace to many regions, established laws that today are considered just fine, etc.
And you are saying just because someone is Turkish, that means they are all genocidal maniacs...There is no specific "turkish" nature. They are just people who see heavy censorship from the government.

[Artashes]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Children's hands hacked off in such numbers one could pave the -- ROAD -- with them.
Lining children up and seeing how many -- CHILDRENS -- heads a bullet would go through.
Cutting open pregnant women's stomachs and ripping out the unborn to toss and stick on a bayonet.
Gauging out the eyes of defenseless old men.
Etc,etc,etc....
You a human? Is that your nature?
Wtf are you talking about?
Ever read the history of the mongols, huns, turcs? Standard conduct by ALL accounts.
Idling was not enough. HIDEOUS torture was de rigor .
The turcs of today justify and celebrate their emmediate predecessors.
Note the doning of automums garb & playing automums music recently in the Netherlands (BECAUSE) a memorial was erected to the torturous genocide of our family. Recently.
Edee amine or the hutus come to mind but not standard conduct amongst humans.

[Chubs]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

You and I don't seem to be on the same page.
So we agree the murder and torture and abduction of our family (not to mention theft) is not to be celebrated (unless your a turc).
Wanna clarify what part of the words I wrote you refer to as "blatant racism".

Such behavior is synonymous with turkishness.
Just this. The way you used it seems a bit racist. You use it in a derogatory way. I doubt there is a "turkish nature."
The behavior mentioned in your post is synonymous with human nature...

[Artashes]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Other than the blatant racism, I agree this is not a celebration. PR stunt..Its already turned into that. Public Relations (propaganda) is a powerful thing. Look at the US
It convinced an entire country to go to war, twice. Its about to push the world to WWIII..

You and I don't seem to be on the same page.
So we agree the murder and torture and abduction of our family (not to mention theft) is not to be celebrated (unless your a turc).
Wanna clarify what part of the words I wrote you refer to as "blatant racism".

[Chubs]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

Other than the blatant racism, I agree this is not a celebration. PR stunt..Its already turned into that. Public Relations (propaganda) is a powerful thing. Look at the US
It convinced an entire country to go to war, twice. Its about to push the world to WWIII..

[Eddo211]

Re: A hundred years of remembering

They will be avenged......one day.

Turks are paranoid of this.

[Artashes]

The definition of grief ---
--- Deep mental anguish ---
Synonyms
(1) Sorrow
(2) Misery
(3) Sadness
(4) Anguish
(5) Pain
(6) Distress
(7) Heartache
(8) Heartbreak
(9) Agony
(10) Torment
(11) Affliction
(12) Suffering
(13) Woe
(14) Desolation
(15) Dejection
(16) Despair
(17) Mourning
(18) Berevement
(19) Lamentation

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I saw
Children's hands hacked off in such numbers one could have paved the road with them.
German consul from Mosul on the road from Mosul to Aleppo.
Such behavior is synonymous with turkishness.
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On looking for a heart where there is none --
-- don't do it --
Should we turn the hundredth year of REMEMBERING into "cash prizes" for the best idea to get the word out to the deaf?
This memory is (NOT) a celebration.
IT'S a GRIEF STRICKEN MEMORY we are NEVER going to forget.
I would like to see us (Armenians) gather unannounced by the thousands at some lonesome mountain in California and elsewhere throughout the country and world to honor and remember those who were lost and to state to the foul turcee
------- there will come a time -----
The world will notice our gathering.
They will also notice the lack of their invitation.
We can honor the righteous amongst the nations
But let us not bother speaking to the deaf and unconcerned.
And let us not turn this into a PR --- stunt ---